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  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
    • 37812

    Originally posted by french frank View Post

    My point was just about the programme title, not the programme. Every night is 'music night' on R3, plus most of the daytime. The same, I think, applied to R2. I think it was under Wright that the idea of FNIMN was piloted on R3. If I remember, the evening concert starred Lulu. Absolutely nothing wrong with Lulu of FNIMN. But why cut down on classical concerts on R3 to make room for them?
    But a surprise had it been Berg's Lulu!

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    • Ein Heldenleben
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      • Apr 2014
      • 6925

      Originally posted by cria View Post
      who was senior, the coiler, the uncoiler, or the flatten out any kinks man? (it was the BBC, after all)
      Thinking about it - Didn’t work like that. As I recall Golders Green had studio attendants who put out mic stands , chairs and music stands . Not only that I’m pretty sure they laid the cables and even connected up the mics for the senior studio manager (the music balancer ) to exactly position. With microphones on virtually every string desk for that lush R2 sound that was incredibly kind of them and no doubt beyond their job spec, It was also fairly unusual as at most Outside broadcasts every one mucked in. I’ve noticed that just about everything is multi miked now including classical orchestras - that’s quite a lot more work than the more spare balances that I worked on,
      In terms of kinks (which can damage the all important screening and make the cables lie untidily ) even now when I see some one wrongly coiling a mic cable by wrapping it around their palm and elbow something inside me dies. You have to let it dangle, wiggle out the kinks (please don’t go there ) and gather it in decent size kinkless loops in one hand. Generations of sound people will thank you for years afterwards.

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      • Andrew Slater
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        • Mar 2007
        • 1797

        I see a new series of Feedback is starting tomorrow afternoon on R4 (1630). I wonder what will come up ...

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30448

          Originally posted by Andrew Slater View Post
          I see a new series of Feedback is starting tomorrow afternoon on R4 (1630). I wonder what will come up ...
          It will at best be an opportunity for R3 management to explain why they're doing what they're doing. BBC self-justification. But perhaps I'll be proved wrong.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • DracoM
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            • Mar 2007
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            • Hitch
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              • Nov 2010
              • 374

              An interesting article about an apparent surge of interest in classical music:



              Some paragraphs about the BBC:

              "I’ll make one last point—and it very much needs to be made. There’s heavy irony in the fact that major institutions (such as the BBC) are sharply cutting back their support of classical music right now.

              Just last week 462 composers and musicians signed a petition protesting the BBC’s massive cuts to classical music. (The BBC responded with a bland form letter marked by errors.)

              This is actually the moment when the BBC and others should be doing the opposite. They should go with the momentum, not fight against it.

              Of course, that implies a reversal of everything we thought we knew about the genre. In the past, elitist institutions gave classical music support because the grassroots audience was so small. Now the resurgence is happening on the ground level, and the petrified institutions that dominate our culture aren’t even paying attention.

              I could lament this gap between perception and reality. But instead I prefer to celebrate it. What’s happening among the audience is what really counts. That’s always been true and always will be true. If powerful decision-makers at the BBC and elsewhere don’t recognize this, that’s their loss."

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              • french frank
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                • Feb 2007
                • 30448

                Originally posted by Hitch View Post
                An interesting article about an apparent surge of interest in classical music:

                https://www.honest-broker.com/p/six-...-an-unexpected
                Of course, it depends what you mean by classical music. Even the Met's sell-out operas seem to be brand new works. Not in itself a bad thing, but classical? I imagine people who listen regularly to a few current R3 programmes think they're listening to classical music.
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • Hitch
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 374

                  It's a two-fold problem: content and distribution. As the old joke goes:

                  "This soup is terrible."
                  "Yes, and so little of it!"

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30448

                    Originally posted by Hitch View Post
                    It's a two-fold problem: content and distribution. As the old joke goes:

                    "This soup is terrible."
                    "Yes, and so little of it!"
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • Barbirollians
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11751

                      Originally posted by Andrew Slater View Post
                      I see a new series of Feedback is starting tomorrow afternoon on R4 (1630). I wonder what will come up ...
                      Its become very toothless - with all due respect to Ms Catherwood since Roger Bolton was booted out. I doubt that's her fault more pliant producers.

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                      • Ein Heldenleben
                        Full Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 6925

                        Originally posted by Hitch View Post
                        An interesting article about an apparent surge of interest in classical music:



                        Some paragraphs about the BBC:

                        "I’ll make one last point—and it very much needs to be made. There’s heavy irony in the fact that major institutions (such as the BBC) are sharply cutting back their support of classical music right now.

                        Just last week 462 composers and musicians signed a petition protesting the BBC’s massive cuts to classical music. (The BBC responded with a bland form letter marked by errors.)

                        This is actually the moment when the BBC and others should be doing the opposite. They should go with the momentum, not fight against it.

                        Of course, that implies a reversal of everything we thought we knew about the genre. In the past, elitist institutions gave classical music support because the grassroots audience was so small. Now the resurgence is happening on the ground level, and the petrified institutions that dominate our culture aren’t even paying attention.

                        I could lament this gap between perception and reality. But instead I prefer to celebrate it. What’s happening among the audience is what really counts. That’s always been true and always will be true. If powerful decision-makers at the BBC and elsewhere don’t recognize this, that’s their loss."
                        Very interesting article and needs mulling over. One thing I would venture is that there is way more “operatic cosplay” in the stalls at ENO (capes, top hats , silver topped canes ) than the Royal Opera…..

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                        • LMcD
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                          • Sep 2017
                          • 8627

                          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post

                          Its become very toothless - with all due respect to Ms Catherwood since Roger Bolton was booted out. I doubt that's her fault more pliant producers.
                          Just over 3 minutes, starting at 13'24", on the Radio 3 changes. Young Jackson will be interviewed later in the series when the changes have 'bedded in'.

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                          • oddoneout
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 9268

                            Originally posted by LMcD View Post

                            Just over 3 minutes, starting at 13'24", on the Radio 3 changes. Young Jackson will be interviewed later in the series when the changes have 'bedded in'.
                            As in "successful" and therefore permanent?


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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30448

                              Originally posted by LMcD View Post

                              Just over 3 minutes, starting at 13'24", on the Radio 3 changes. Young Jackson will be interviewed later in the series when the changes have 'bedded in'.
                              'Bedding in' is part of the standard BBC lexicon. It comes after 'refreshing the schedule'. And ditching something/someone is 'resting' it/them.
                              Last edited by french frank; 08-03-24, 18:55.
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                              • hmvman
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                                • Mar 2007
                                • 1121

                                Will the interview be done by Katie Derham?

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