Alan Davey, new controller, R3

[Nick Armstrong]

Was it Lulu?

To adopt the EC mantra for dealing with absolute b*ll*cks [in Sarah Walker voice]:

A very interesting answer, very well done!

[Honoured Guest]

The weekday morning musical challenge can be avoided by simply switching away for a few minutes.

It is selfish to resent every single item which is of little personal appeal.

And the narrower the audience focus, the greater the risk to the entire station's continuing existence.

[Nick Armstrong]

The weekday morning musical challenge can be avoided by simply switching away for a few minutes.

It is selfish to resent every single item which is of little personal appeal.

Oh quite. But short of resentment, surely a spot of ridicule is ok, when it's merited?

[Honoured Guest]

Have pointed out (on Fb) that the BBC Trust said it's the BBC's responsibility (not Radio 3's alone) to do this. Other services should do more and they aren't because they have their earbuds shutting out everything but popular music. Deafing up, rather than dumbing down.

"Founded in 1953, Radio 2’s Friday Night Is Music Night is the world’s longest-running orchestral music programme. As the first ever BBC Young Dancer Competition draws to its final stages, the BBC Concert Orchestra join forces on Friday 8 May (8pm to 10pm) with the London Swing Orchestra to celebrate five centuries of dance music. Hosted by Ken Bruce, listeners will trip the light fantastic through a selection of waltzes, tangoes, foxtrots, sambas and pas de deuxs. The programme will chassé its way through the last 500 years of dance including morris dancing first noted in the 15th century; From Tudor times – the Courante and Elizabeth I's favourite, the Lavolta; from the 18th century, the minuet as interpreted by Mozart in his Jupiter Symphony; the waltzes of the Strauss family from the 19th century and the twist from the 20th century."

[french frank]

I did check a lot of the FNIMN playlists. Some weeks there is nothing whatever that could be called 'classical', and even your quote shows that there might be a piece or two once a week, in the weeks when there is. Nothing in the weeks when there isn't. QED

"Founded in 1953, Radio 2’s Friday Night Is Music Night is the world’s longest-running orchestral music programme. As the first ever BBC Young Dancer Competition draws to its final stages, the BBC Concert Orchestra join forces on Friday 8 May (8pm to 10pm) with the London Swing Orchestra to celebrate five centuries of dance music. Hosted by Ken Bruce, listeners will trip the light fantastic through a selection of waltzes, tangoes, foxtrots, sambas and pas de deuxs. The programme will chassé its way through the last 500 years of dance including morris dancing first noted in the 15th century; From Tudor times – the Courante and Elizabeth I's favourite, the Lavolta; from the 18th century, the minuet as interpreted by Mozart in his Jupiter Symphony; the waltzes of the Strauss family from the 19th century and the twist from the 20th century."

[Barbirollians]

Radio 2 of course killed off More Melodies for You and One Hundred Best Tunes.

[Honoured Guest]

I did check a lot of the FNIMN playlists. Some weeks there is nothing whatever that could be called 'classical', and even your quote shows that there might be a piece or two once a week, in the weeks when there is. Nothing in the weeks when there isn't. QED

Yes, I don't dispute your statistical analysis of past programmes. I was just highlighting this instance of a FNIMN programme which will include classical music, in a context (of popular dance) which will engage more listeners than a slab of just classical music would.

And the pan-BBC link, to the BBC Young Dancer Competition on television, seems to be just what you wanted, planting seeds across the networks.

The only utterly bonkers thing is that the Ballet category final of the BBC Young Dancer Competition is scheduled on BBC4 tv for Friday 8 May (8pm to 9pm), at exactly the same time as the first half of this FNIMN.

[Tevot]

Was it Lulu?

"Well....... You make me wanna shout Look my hands jumpin' Look my heart's thumpin''.....

More upbeat than that geezer Wozzeck at any rate

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

wot's wrong with resentment then ....


and er an exam question: Compare and Contrast Leadership Succession in British Arts Institutional Bureaucracies with Special Reference to Broadcasting - Answers in no more than 250 characters to #Rob'nSal

[Honoured Guest]

and er an exam question: Compare and Contrast Leadership Succession in British Arts Institutional Bureaucracies with Special Reference to Broadcasting - Answers in no more than 250 characters to #Rob'nSal

As usual, I don't understand your post. The Old Vic isn't an institutional bureaucracy and the British Museum appointment process has hardly started, so it's difficult to compare and contrast with them. The new Artistic Director of the National Theatre was announced eighteen months ago.

Rufus Norris was appointed by the NT Board on the basis of continuity. The other main contender, a partnership of David Lan (of the Young Vic) and Stephen Daldry, was eventually passed over because they proposed doing things differently. As David Lan reminded us on Sunday evening, on accepting the Young Vic's first Olivier award (where not one single NT-originated production received a nomination in any category!), the Young Vic has been called (by a NewYorker) the best theatre in the world, but he (David Lan) prefers to say it's the best theatre in Waterloo (i.e. also home of the NT and Old Vic).

So, it seems that the Boards approve their Appointment Committees' search for more of the same - don't risk frightening the horses.

Is that what you meant?

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

no

[Honoured Guest]

no

Okay. Who are #Rob'nSal?

[Honoured Guest]

Reversing quite a lot of what RW did sounds like a good idea to me ...

According to Bryan Appleyard, the Saturday opera will be from the ROH, not the Met, so the issues with the timing of New York's matinee performance won't arise. There won't be that many starts much before 7.30. Really, I don't think things are going to be QUITE as bad as you think they'll be.

Next Saturday 25 April

4.00 - 5.30 Jazz Line-Up
5.30 - 9.00 Opera on 3: Live from the Met
9.00 - 10.00 Jazz Record Requests

As I expected, abnormal jazz scheduling has returned to Saturdays. Here we go again ...

[Pianorak]

In case you've missed it: Alan Davey interviewed by Roger Bolton on R4 Feedback today. Starts at about 16:45

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05qk6zb

[french frank]

In case you've missed it: Alan Davey interviewed by Roger Bolton on R4 Feedback today. Starts at about 16:45
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05qk6zb

Nothing much that we hadn't heard before - but HG will have a chance to harangue him next week for messing about with the Saturday jazz again. And apparently Radio Times is taking questions to put to Alan Davey too.

I see a forumite was asking about proposals to bring contemporary music out of the shadows ...