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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30537

    Another French Nobel winner

    There seemed to be genuine outrage in the English-speaking world when JMG Le Clézio won the literary prize, mainly on the grounds that people had never heard of him.

    Will Patrick Modiano fare any better?

    I've only read one of his novels: the spur to look out Dans le café de la jeunesse perdue.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
  • vinteuil
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 12984

    #2
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    L'écrivain a décroché le prix Goncourt avec Rue des boutiques obscures en 1978, mais, dès son premier roman, La Place de l'étoile, publié en 1968, il fait une entrée fracassante en littérature.

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    • amateur51

      #3
      Originally posted by french frank View Post
      There seemed to be genuine outrage in the English-speaking world when JMG Le Clézio won the literary prize, mainly on the grounds that people had never heard of him.

      Will Patrick Modiano fare any better?

      I've only read one of his novels: the spur to look out Dans le café de la jeunesse perdue.
      Available second hand for 0.01p plus P&P at the usual place

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30537

        #4
        Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
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        Don't forget that 15% of that 1p and 15% of the P&P go to Orinoco ... still, better than the whole lot, and it does genuinely help marketeers.
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • gradus
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 5633

          #5
          Why great outrage, is it thought that Les Francais have been 'at it'?

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30537

            #6
            Originally posted by gradus View Post
            Why great outrage, is it thought that Les Francais have been 'at it'?
            Dunno. Unfortunately, the Guardian's link no longer works ... Oops, yes it does, I think .

            And http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7677013.stm
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • Alain Maréchal
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 1288

              #7
              "His name is largely unknown in Britain and the United States, but the recipient of the most feted prize in literature has much he could teach us about life today, says Lisa Jardine."

              "But" - that "but", says so much about the attitude of the anglophone world - they must wonder how the Nobel committee could even consider awarding the prize to someone who writes in a foreign language that most Americans don't understand. "Really, the nerve of some people!"

              You may now turn off the irony filter.

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30537

                #8
                Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post
                "But" - that "but", says so much about the attitude of the anglophone world - they must wonder how the Nobel committee could even consider awarding the prize to someone who writes in a foreign language that most Americans don't understand.
                Yes, the outrage seemed to be, not that he didn't necessarily deserve it for his work, but that someone whose work didn't merit being translated into 24 different languages - including English - should have been honoured.

                Still, by now they should have had time to learn French, so Modiano may fare better!
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • Alain Maréchal
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1288

                  #9
                  I've calmed down a little this morning. Its worth bearing in mind that the award is not just for literary merit- its for expressing idealism aross a body of work, and is awarded by the Royal Academy, not only a literary panel. Anyway I can't see why the Americans complain - it has gone to Americans plenty of times.

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26577

                    #10
                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    ...someone whose work didn't merit being translated into 24 different languages - including English
                    The only book I've ever tried to translate was Modiano's "De si braves garçons"... Some of my French crew are really into him, and got me 'in' too. I found it incredibly difficult to translate, and gave up His style is a bit like snow, it melts away as soon as you try and handle it - all the subtle French irony is difficult to carry across. Even the title (which is something like "Such fine lads", with an ever so-slight touch of sarcasm, is quite elusive). But good stuff, I think.
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • vinteuil
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12984

                      #11
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                      after le Figaro, here is what le Monde has to say:

                      Le Prix Nobel de littérature 2014 a écrit une trentaine d’ouvrages. Suggestions de lectures, pour ceux qui ne se sont encore jamais plongés dans l’écriture modianesque.

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30537

                        #12
                        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
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                        after le Figaro, here is what le Monde has to say:

                        http://www.lemonde.fr/livres/article...4509_3260.html
                        '... l’auteur [ ... ] assure qu’il écrit toujours le même livre, à quelques variations près'. Oh, well, I've probably read them all already :-)
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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