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  • Flosshilde
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    • Nov 2010
    • 7988

    sure?



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    • aka Calum Da Jazbo
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 9173

      no i escaped .....
      According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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      • Serial_Apologist
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        • Dec 2010
        • 37933

        Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
        sure?



        Which reminds me of one time when I was travelling late at night on the Circle Line. The only other passenger in the carriage was a sleeping drunk. When the train pulled into Aldersgate, he woke, looked blearly across at me, and asked, "Ecchhh, ecchshcuse me, h-have we got to Southend?"

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        • vinteuil
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          • Nov 2010
          • 13035

          Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post



          :
          ... is it a doughnut? is it the worm ouroboros* ?? - no, it's a π -chart...


          * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30613

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eSTsUayDJE ... as we're in scholarly mode.



            Ma fin est mon commencement
            Et mon commencement ma fin
            Est teneure vraiement

            Ma fin est mon commencement.
            Mes tiers chans trois fois seulement
            Se retrograde et einsi fin.

            Ma fin est mon commencement
            Et mon commencement ma fin.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • Flosshilde
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              • Nov 2010
              • 7988

              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
              ... is it a doughnut? is it the worm ouroboros* ?? - no, it's a π -chart...


              * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros
              When I read "something constantly re-creating itself, the eternal return," I mis-read the highlighted word


              (sorry to drop the elevated tone by several degrees - oops, I forgot, we're all undergraduates here so we don't have degrees)

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              • eighthobstruction
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                • Nov 2010
                • 6455

                Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKpexxzR4Ak

                ....I'm actually an ungraduate....
                bong ching

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                • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                  Late member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 9173

                  Mr Smith





                  is coming

                  According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                  • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 9173

                    According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                    • Serial_Apologist
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 37933

                      Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
                      Mr Smith





                      is coming

                      When I was a nipper, our piano tuner Mr Clap used to play Run Rabbit Run whenever he visited. Amazing man, Mr Clap: he was in his nineties, had lived in Earls Court all his life, and could remember when the district was still countryside, and Earls Court Road a country lane!

                      I recently acquired some old maps: he was right! Earls Court would have still been a village; the area wasn't built up until the 1870s. Amazing that, when you think about it.

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                      • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 9173

                        had a dotty old lady primary school [er junior probably] who told us the same about Notting Hill Gate ... a toll apparently, Portobello was a farm etc ...

                        this is shameless ... a chunk of the real agenda of the Tory gentry is in this article ... a new form of clearance is going on S_A ... neither of us can go home again .... too many Russian gangsters, and other Tory backers .... remember Westminster Council .... now they are all at it!
                        According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                        • Flosshilde
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7988

                          The housing minister, Mark Prisk, insisted on Sunday night that councils should be careful about placing families in B&Bs far from their home borough. "There is absolutely no excuse for families to be sent miles away without proper regard for their circumstances, or to be placed in unsuitable bed and breakfast accommodation for long periods of time," he said.
                          But Prisk also defended the policy of removing families on benefit from central London. "Nor is it right that those living on benefits should be able to live in parts of the capital that those who aren't reliant on this support couldn't afford to,"


                          So what is he suggesting should happen? He's shrugging off any responsibility for finding a solution to a problem that his government is creating.

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                          • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 9173

                            ... austerity kills

                            They argue that the real danger to public health is not recession per se, but austerity: “When social safety nets are slashed, economic shocks like losing a job or a home turn into a health crisis.” The authors note that Greece, the European guinea pig for austerity, has seen a 52 per cent rise in HIV infections, a doubling of suicides, rising homicides and a return of malaria, all as critical health care was cut. Iceland, which has a strong safety net, didn’t experience rising deaths in the Great Recession.

                            ...

                            In the UK, Stuckler and Basu note that antidepressant use rose by 22 per cent between 2007 and 2009. Doctors gave out 3.1 million more antidepressant prescriptions in 2010 than they had two years earlier. Between 2007 and 2010, suicides rose by more than 1,000 above pre-existing trends, although the numbers started slowing in 2009 under the Darling boom, as employment rose. Scarily, the authors note that suicides are the tip of the iceberg. For each suicide there are an estimated 10 suicide attempts and between 100 and 1,000 new cases of depression.

                            Stuckler and Basu conclude as follows: “Had the austerity experiments been governed by the same rigorous standards as clinical trials they would have been discontinued long ago by a board of medical ethics. The side effects of the austerity treatment have been severe and often deadly. The benefits of the treatment have failed to materialise … austerity is a choice and we don’t have to choose it”.
                            According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                            • Simon

                              So now we're onto housing - blaming "them" again. I read these posts and despair.

                              Some policies have short-term effects, that's true, though it remains to be seen what effect this cap will have.

                              But of course the real problem is threefold:

                              Firrstly, that there are too many people in the country, especially in big cities. That's almost entirely due to almost unrestricted immigration over the past 15 years.

                              Secondly, there has been a growth in second home ownership, which needs to be restricted so as to allow younger people the chance to buy at the lower end of the market and thereby get their feet on the first rung of the ladder.

                              Thirdly, the attitude that "the country owes me a house if I want one" is too prevalent. There is no logical justification for the expectation that local authorities should be obliged to house any and everybody who demands it. Those forced by circumstances to be homeless should always be housed, as also should those who are vulnerable or in danger. But the idea that every 16 year old who gets pregnant after a one night stand has the automatic right to a home away from her parents as an unmarried mother is both unfair and absurd.

                              As usual, it's silly and ill-thought-out policies of social engineering, allied to past stupidity on the part of politicians, that has caused the problem. Solving it is not going to be easy, and it's certainly beyond the naive answers offered upthread.

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                              • MrGongGong
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 18357

                                Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
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                                please no
                                i've not had my tea yet
                                and if ever there was a face for a pie

                                Is that his "smuggest of the smug" face ?

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