the Austerity Con or Con

[teamsaint]

you can , if you wish, play " Spot the complete load of ******cks" in this article.
But it isn't really a challenge.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10240471/The-rest-of-the-UK-needs-to-copy-Londons-capitalist-culture.html

[Serial_Apologist]

you can , if you wish, play " Spot the complete load of ******cks" in this article.
But it isn't really a challenge.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/e...t-culture.html

Some of the replies to that article show that not all Torygraph readers are slavish followers of that man's creed. What's much more worrying is no effective spokespersons existing for the "official opposition", as is being commented today.

[ahinton]

Some of the replies to that article show that not all Torygraph readers are slavish followers of that man's creed. What's much more worrying is no effective spokespersons existing for the "official opposition", as is being commented today.

I'm not surprised about either of these things, especially the latter, given that one would hardly anticipate hearing from "effective spokespersons" if there's no "official opposition" for them to represent; there seems to me to be a somewhat sinister aspect to "we're all in this together" that doesn't often get aired...

[scottycelt]

Some of the replies to that article show that not all Torygraph readers are slavish followers of that man's creed. What's much more worrying is no effective spokespersons existing for the "official opposition", as is being commented today.

Hardly surprising.

When the economy is clearly recovering (after repeated and dire official opposition warnings that it wouldn't) do you really expect Ed Miliband and Ed Balls to suddenly appear on television boasting 'We told you so!'?

Come on, S_A!

[amateur51]

Hardly surprising.

When the economy is clearly recovering (after repeated and dire official opposition warnings that it wouldn't) do you really expect Ed Miliband and Ed Balls to suddenly appear on television boasting 'We told you so!'?

Come on, S_A!

''Possibly recovering at last but I wouldn't hold my breath' might be closer to it, scotty

[teamsaint]

Perhaps scotty might care to calculate how long it will take unemployment fall to, say, 2 milion at current rates.

[scottycelt]

Perhaps scotty might care to calculate how long it will take unemployment fall to, say, 2 milion at current rates.

Politics is the art of the possible, team ... and my own experience is that economic expectations almost always fail whether on the upward or downward sides.

Harold MacMillan, in a rare moment of political honesty, got it dead right .. it's really mostly about world 'events' quite beyond any government's control ... a bit like the weather really.

Still, if the economy's is recovering there is an excellent chance that unemployment will continue to fall which I'm sure will be enthusiastically welcomed even by convinced 'socialists' like Miliband 'n' Balls.

[scottycelt]

''Possibly recovering at last but I wouldn't hold my breath' might be closer to it, scotty

You could well be right, amsey ...

[amateur51]

Still, if the economy's is recovering there is an excellent chance that unemployment will continue to fall which I'm sure will be enthusiastically welcomed even by convinced 'socialists' like Miliband 'n' Balls.

If unemployment doesn't continue to fall significantly, then how can the economy be said to have recovered?

[eighthobstruction]

a) most of the jobs are part-time....zero hours etc....

b) Some women have taken this jobless opportunity to have babies.... (nought wrong with that I guess....but leading to problems ahead???)

c)Just as well the management class have rewarded themselves with such high class cars/holidays/lifestyles....otherwise surely the economy might dip again....

....

[amateur51]

a) most of the jobs are part-time....zero hours etc....

b) Some women have taken this jobless opportunity to have babies.... (nought wrong with that I guess....but leading to problems ahead???)

c)Just as well the management class have rewarded themselves with such high class cars/holidays/lifestyles....otherwise surely the economy might dip again....

....

So many 'employed' people are on low incomes that the bulk of Housing Benefit is paid to them, a) because although working they're still poor; and b) because rents continue to rise.

Some recovery eh?

[scottycelt]

... Some women have taken this jobless opportunity to have babies.... (nought wrong with that I guess....but leading to problems ahead???).

Never had you down as one of those dreadful right-wing sexists, 8th0 ... wot the heck are you on about? ... wimmin havin' babies? ...

[Richard Barrett]

Politics is the art of the possible, team ...

Many people like to quote Otto von Bismarck on politics being "the art of the possible" but not so many these days would quote his formerly equally influential "The great questions of the time will not be resolved by speeches and majority decisions—that was the great mistake of 1848 and 1849—but by iron and blood."

[scottycelt]

Many people like to quote Otto von Bismarck on politics being "the art of the possible" but not so many these days would quote his formerly equally influential "The great questions of the time will not be resolved by speeches and majority decisions—that was the great mistake of 1848 and 1849—but by iron and blood."

Yes, that may well be true.

A bit like Harold Wilson's famous 'a week is a long time in politics' which many people like to quote but then there was also the now little heard ... 'The Britain that is going to be forged in the white heat of this [technological] revolution will be no place for restrictive practices or outdated methods on either side of industry.'

[teamsaint]

Perhaps scotty might care to calculate how long it will take unemployment fall to, say, 2 milion at current rates.

Ok Scotty, you were distracted by the footer, so I will help.
My breakfast table envelope maths says it is something over 30 years at current rates, to get to 2 million. That is to get to 2 million !!

and that is with stagnant pay rates and a "flexible" zero hours sector on the rise.
but hey, we are on the right path. Right?

And fracking will save us all with limitless cheap clean energy.