Democracy and Monarchy

[Flosshilde]

Absolutely brilliant! I thought satire was well & truly dead when they gave Armando Ianucci the OBE (or was ti the MBE), but I see the RF doesn't need anyone to satirise them when they can do it so well themselves!

[Flosshilde]

It must make family gatherings quite bizarre, with people bobbing about all over the place. Or if someone of higher rank is present the lower ranks get ignored - if HMQ is present, for example, nobody bobs to PC?

[Serial_Apologist]

It must make family gatherings quite bizarre, with people bobbing about all over the place. Or if someone of higher rank is present the lower ranks get ignored - if HMQ is present, for example, nobody bobs to PC?

But I imagine the Royal Family to be strong on roughage.

[Dave2002]

It's all a load of rubbish.

That "greeting" stuff scales as O(n^2) for pairwise meetings. Heaven help us if there are more factors.

How about a table:



Barking, isn't it! Just imagine if you were presented with such a table, and a list of personages designated 1,2,3 ... etc at every new venue you visited.

[vinteuil]

... seems Brian's doing all right -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18645331

[MrGongGong]

I guess that the rabid monarchists are more than happy with this one as well ?

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5jcb9JGRDK67hOCkkP_6KdY2apsWw?docId=N0000431341455583523A

It honours men and women who have held public office or who have contributed in a significant way to national life.

yeah , right ...................

at least some people have the right idea

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5jcb9JGRDK67hOCkkP_6KdY2apsWw?docId=N0000431341455583523A

When I read this the other day, even I did a bit of a double take

so in the same spirit (and that of "Dr" Paisley) i've decided to award my son the title "Supreme Ruler of the Universe"

[gradus]

Mr Salmond currently thinks the Queen should be Head of State in an independent Scotland, I wonder why?

[mangerton]

so in the same spirit (and that of "Dr" Paisley) i've decided to award my son the title "Supreme Ruler of the Universe"

Sorry, Mr GG, I gave that title to my daughter miss mangerton last week. Did you not know? It was in all the papers.

This William/Knight of the Thistle nonsense has been done for political reasons. It's supposed to indicate to us Scots that the royal family is committed to us and loves us really, honest injun.

The facts that queenie can only spare one week a year for official engagements in Scotland, and even after sixty years still can't get her title correct, say it all for me.

Two related points of correction/clarification: St Giles' is more correctly known as "The High Kirk of Edinburgh". There hasn't been a bishop there since the 17th century.

Also, "Knights of the Thistle" are in no way connected to any Glasgow football team.

[teamsaint]

Sorry, Mr GG, I gave that title to my daughter miss mangerton last week. Did you not know? It was in all the papers.

This William/Knight of the Thistle nonsense has been done for political reasons. It's supposed to indicate to us Scots that the royal family is committed to us and loves us really, honest injun.

The facts that queenie can only spare one week a year for official engagements in Scotland, and even after sixty years still can't get her title correct, say it all for me.

Two related points of correction/clarification: St Giles' is more correctly known as "The High Kirk of Edinburgh". There hasn't been a bishop there since the 17th century.

Also, "Knights of the Thistle" are in no way connected to any Glasgow football team.

shame about the football
As for the rest of it, what a bunch of egotistical useless insecure ******s they are.

[french frank]

Sitting in a quasi-judicial capacity, I'm not paid to have my own opinion , just look at the evidence. It's clear that the death of the Queen has deeply affected many people, home and abroad, so that they do 'share the grief' of the royal family. One doesn't have to share the grief to recognise that fact. How indiividuals choose to act in the face of that situation is up to them, and is about themselves.

[Joseph K]

Sitting in a quasi-judicial capacity, I'm not paid to have my own opinion , just look at the evidence. It's clear that the death of the Queen has deeply affected many people, home and abroad, so that they do 'share the grief' of the royal family. One doesn't have to share the grief to recognise that fact. How indiividuals choose to act in the face of that situation is up to them, and is about themselves.

Be interested to see some of the evidence that the Queen's death has 'deeply affected many people'.

I don't doubt that some such people exist, but I do wonder just how deeply affected they would be by the death of someone who was actually consequential, who made a difference and was not just a feudal relic.

What I find sad is that people find this sad.

[Joseph K]

I've seen the evidence on the vid clips I've seen. But returning to the (amended) thread title: Radio 3 during the period of National Mourning:.

My guess is most people in this nation are not in fact mourning.

[Joseph K]

I agree with that. I, as an individual, didn't happen to share other people's views on Princess Diana. In not proclaiming what I thought about her (I knew that even colleagues on the news subs desk where I was working didn't feel as I felt), I wasn't showing respect to her, I was showing respect to - call it empathy with - other people's feelings. Nothing to do with whose views are in the majority. What I thought really wasn't very important - in my opinion.

I suppose if I feel other people's feelings are very much misplaced, I want to communicate this. Not that this is based on what I think of the Queen as an individual, I have no opinion on that (how can I?) just that I strongly dislike the concept of a monarchy.

[french frank]

Not that this is based on what I think of the Queen as an individual, I have no opinion on that (how can I?) just that I strongly dislike the concept of a monarchy.

You will still have plenty of opportunity to express your opinion, I think - probably for more years than you and many others would wish.

But, I would say that whatever our political feelings, we are passing though a momentous time, a precise moment in history when many things will change - some minor, some more important. I don't know what - maybe the situation in some of the Commonwealth countries - but I wouldn't predict drastic change here in the UK. But I could be quite wrong.

[Ein Heldenleben]

I agree with that. I, as an individual, didn't happen to share other people's views on Princess Diana. In not proclaiming what I thought about her (I knew that even colleagues on the news subs desk where I was working didn't feel as I felt), I wasn't showing respect to her, I was showing respect to - call it empathy with - other people's feelings. Nothing to do with whose views are in the majority. What I thought really wasn't very important - in my opinion.

very well put : from my extensive experience of news rooms they reflect every shade of opinion from ardent monarchists to republicans. Any editor can also tell you the importance of royal stories in terms of selling newspapers.