Coronation Chicken

[eighthobstruction]

....In the kingdom of the Crown he with half a Crown is King....

[french frank]

This is actually on the front of the i Newspaper rather than the Independent.

"Close to half of adults – 46 per cent – said they felt the newly crowned monarch should remain politically neutral and keep his personal views on the issue of the day to himself.

But figures compiled by polling firm BMG show that a sizeable minority of Brits – 38 per cent – believe the opposite and would like the King to speak out publicly on the burning issues that matter to him."

[gradus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwc0EwbU7g0

[Cockney Sparrow]

"Close to half of adults – 46 per cent – said they felt the newly crowned monarch should remain politically neutral and keep his personal views on the issue of the day to himself.

But figures compiled by polling firm BMG show that a sizeable minority of Brits – 38 per cent – believe the opposite and would like the King to speak out publicly on the burning issues that matter to him."

I'm part of the 46%. However, I view the Monarch as a backstop for democracy and the government since 2019 has shown how vulnerable the constitution is to bad actors. Chaotic and amoral, thankfully badly organised and unfocussed Johnson showed that we were lucky he wasn't focussed, or competent in overthrowing our democracy.

I was greatly disappointed that the late Queen accepted the long prorogation - either too cautious from habit or declining powers, or badly advised or both. The Supreme Court Judgement in the case bought by Miller (a model of clarity) exposed its illegality. I hope the King would be more challenging in such circumstances and where necessary call the bluff of a bad 'un by suggesting he call the next best placed candidate to form a government and see if it can command the confidence of Parliament.

According to the Eye, when he resigned but stayed on for the course of the Tory party leadership election, the Queen's advisers wargamed various outcomes - including that Johnson would refuse to leave Downing Street - so perhaps they had learnt a lesson......

With the lack of quality and moral compass of the politicians who wormed their way into power in recent years, for all their frailties I still prefer a member of the Royal family as head of state to a superannuated politician.

[oddoneout]

....I wonder how folk would have faired with the Met had they been silent and determined looking while holding up a plain A4 piece of yellow paper....

Well, Paul Powlesland(barrister) was threatened with arrest for holding up a blank sheet of (white) paper in Parliament Square last September, so I imagine holding up a yellow sheet would mean actual arrest these days?

[oddoneout]

I'm part of the 46%. However, I view the Monarch as a backstop for democracy and the government since 2019 has shown how vulnerable the constitution is to bad actors. Chaotic and amoral, thankfully badly organised and unfocussed Johnson showed that we were lucky he wasn't focussed, or competent in overthrowing our democracy.

I was greatly disappointed that the late Queen accepted the long prorogation - either too cautious from habit or declining powers, or badly advised or both. The Supreme Court Judgement in the case bought by Miller (a model of clarity) exposed its illegality. I hope the King would be more challenging in such circumstances and where necessary call the bluff of a bad 'un by suggesting he call the next best placed candidate to form a government and see if it can command the confidence of Parliament.

According to the Eye, when he resigned but stayed on for the course of the Tory party leadership election, the Queen's advisers wargamed various outcomes - including that Johnson would refuse to leave Downing Street - so perhaps they had learnt a lesson......

With the lack of quality and moral compass of the politicians who wormed their way into power in recent years, for all their frailties I still prefer a member of the Royal family as head of state to a superannuated politician.

I note from the Order of Service that the presentation of some of the baubles (the sword of justice, and 2 sceptres) came with instructions about exercising authority, directing counsels, justice and mercy, "punish and reform what is amiss", "restore things that are gone to decay". Some of that might be welcome?

[Prommer]

I'm a remoaner fundamentalist, not violent as yet but still thoroughly depressed. Pathetic, I know, but in public loos I still prefer to dry my hands on my trousers rather than use a Dyson machine.

That is hilarious!

[Prommer]

I have just caught up on this whole thread... some observations... (and apologies to the occasional voices of sanity, you know who you are!)

1. Almost no commentary on the MUSIC. [I cannot find another place on the whole site where this has been happening, but correct me if I am wrong...]?

2. It starts off with posters falling over themselves to express their indifference. (Warning sign, of course, that they are not indifferent at all.)

3. Furious denunciations of the idea to include the profanum vulgus, with links to multiple Guardian articles, as if no one here reads the Guardian on their own, without assistance. (No other reputable organ is mentioned.)

4. A Bluffer's Guide to Marxist theory.

5. Since the event, still almost no discussion of the service, or the MUSIC.

As (probably) one of the younger posters here (i.e. under 50) I find this all rather depressing, and groupthinky.

[LeMartinPecheur]

I note from the Order of Service that the presentation of some of the baubles (the sword of justice, and 2 sceptres) came with instructions about exercising authority, directing counsels, justice and mercy, "punish and reform what is amiss", "restore things that are gone to decay". Some of that might be welcome?

Would it not be excellent to see the sharpest 'bauble' being employed on a neck or two of HMG? It might concentrate their minds a little more on the needs of the wider public that are supposed to be serving!

[french frank]

Music for the Coronation is a separate thread which has 168 posts.

I have just caught up on this whole thread... some observations... (and apologies to the occasional voices of sanity, you know who you are!)

1. Almost no commentary on the MUSIC. [I cannot find another place on the whole site where this has been happening, but correct me if I am wrong...]?

2. It starts off with posters falling over themselves to express their indifference. (Warning sign, of course, that they are not indifferent at all.)

3. Furious denunciations of the idea to include the profanum vulgus, with links to multiple Guardian articles, as if no one here reads the Guardian on their own, without assistance. (No other reputable organ is mentioned.)

4. A Bluffer's Guide to Marxist theory.

5. Since the event, still no discussion of the service, or the MUSIC.

As (probably) one of the younger posters here (i.e. under 50) I find this all rather depressing, and groupthinky.

[Prommer]

Thank you! What a relief... possibly until I read it!

[Prommer]

That is hilarious!

Is refusing to dry your hands under a Dyson, direct inaction, Fabian Society style?

[Prommer]

Still, 237 posts under "Coronation Chicken", compared with 168 for the music... on a Radio 3 site!

What a world we live in... and no, it's not just down to Brexit

Music for the Coronation is a separate thread which has 168 posts.

[Pulcinella]

Is refusing to dry your hands under a Dyson, direct inaction, Fabian Society style?

Not necessarily; it's simply that other driers are available (such as one's trousers) that aren't supplied by fervent Brexiteers who then move their factories-out of the UK.
Just like there are other pubs available as alternatives to Wetherspoons.

[Pulcinella]

Still, 237 posts under "Coronation Chicken", compared with 168 for the music... on a Radio 3 site!

What a world we live in... and no, it's not just down to Brexit

Perhaps it's worth reflecting on who is creating that world.

Still, 237 posts under "Coronation Chicken", compared with 168 for the music... on a Radio 3 site!

What a world we live in... and no, it's not just down to Brexit

Maybe, maybe not; the vote certainly helped polarise society, and not in a pleasant way.