Balance within the BBC

[Pulcinella]

Hmm. Does that mean that those who generate their own electricity in Italy get free access to radio and television broadcasts?

There's possibly an assumption that everyone is 'on grid', rather like was adopted here to give the recent energy payments out.
I'll raise that point though when I can, as it's an interesting one.

PS: just skimmed though this article

https://www.italianpost.news/rai-license-fee-what-changes-in-2022-bill-exemption/

and there is obviously some consideration of this aspect, as a point specifically mentions

for those who have a supply of electricity from a network that is not interconnected with the national infrastructure.

[Ein Heldenleben]

I'd put it slightly differently. The UK takes absolutely no notice of what other countries do and then go with what works best. Instead, we go our own way and make a total hash if it.

Might be true in in other cases but in the case of broadcasting we were trailblazers. First National broadcasting company , then first public corporation and first to be funded by a universal licence fee. The BBC is still the worlds most recognised broadcast radio and tv brand and when you meet foreign broadcasters you realise how highly respected it is. We are certainly world class leaders in denigrating our National institutions.

[Pulcinella]

Might be true in in other cases but in the case of broadcasting we were trailblazers. First National broadcasting company , then first public corporation and first to be funded by a universal licence fee. The BBC is still the worlds most recognised broadcast radio and tv brand and when you meet foreign broadcasters you realise how highly respected it is. We are certainly world class leaders in denigrating our National institutions.

Maybe because, for a variety of reasons, they've lost our respect?

[RichardB]

Maybe because, for a variety of reasons, they've lost our respect?

Yes, a necessary prelude to selling them off.

[Ein Heldenleben]

Maybe because, for a variety of reasons, they've lost our respect?

Well all I can say is that British tv as a whole stands in lot higher regard than Italian TV however it’s funded. A lot of the loss of respect is the result of a sustained media campaign from media groups who have a very powerful vested interest in seeing the BBC disappear.

[Joseph K]

Well all I can say is that British tv as a whole stands in lot higher regard than Italian TV however it’s funded. A lot of the loss of respect is the result of a sustained media campaign from media groups who have a very powerful vested interest in seeing the BBC disappear.

How can media groups control the extent of or lack of respect from e.g. members of this forum?

[Pulcinella]

Well all I can say is that British tv as a whole stands in lot higher regard than Italian TV however it’s funded.[/B] A lot of the loss of respect is the result of a sustained media campaign from media groups who have a very powerful vested interest in seeing the BBC disappear.

I'm not denying that; but (lack of) funding is one of the BBC's problems, which is how and why it's struggling in many areas. At least Italy seems to have confronted the funding issue.

[Ein Heldenleben]

How can media groups control the extent of or lack of respect from e.g. members of this forum?

Well my comments were aimed at people in general not just forum members. I guess a lot would depend on the level of engagement with those media groups, their critical analytical ability and their capacity for independent thought. What strikes me when you read the constant criticism of the BBC in comments pages in the press is now much sounds as if it was written by Kelvin Mackenzie.

[James Wonnacott]

...and I hope that he is sacked for his outrageous comments about proposals to tackle illegal immigration. This would be a saving I would wholeheartedly endorse!

[James Wonnacott]

It seems the number of viewers increased as a result of the presenters not being present.

Radio 3 could learn from this.

[Ein Heldenleben]

I'm not denying that; but (lack of) funding is one of the BBC's problems, which is how and why it's struggling in many areas. At least Italy seems to have confronted the funding issue.

It might be that but with £4,5 billion of income it should be able to configure a management team capable of dealing with a stray tweet from a presenter. The Italian licence fee is 90 euros a year.

[Ein Heldenleben]

It seems the number of viewers increased as a result of the presenters not being present.

Radio 3 could learn from this.

I don’t like football punditry. They earn a fortune for coming up with comments you could hear down the pub.

[Frances_iom]

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Nothing is ever straightforward in the UK: if there's a way to make something more complicated, we choose that every time.

no since Thatcher the schemes have performed well - just that the populace didn't realise their primary function was to allow the rentier class to benefit from what in the past had been viewed as natural monopolies .

[jayne lee wilson]

I don’t like football punditry. They earn a fortune for coming up with comments you could hear down the pub.

Some exceptions - Carra and Gary Neville on Sky, Glenn Hoddle on Champions League/Serie A duty; Eddie Howe was a good analyst on MotD, when he was still that genial Bournemouth manager... and just look at him now!

I think viewer numbers to MotD last night probably increased out of sheer curiosity to see how it all went.... I switched off after a few minutes, having seen what I wanted earlier, live (worse luck...)....

[Ein Heldenleben]

Some exceptions - Carra and Gary Neville on Sky, Glenn Hoddle on Champions League/Serie A duty; Eddie Howe was a good analyst on MotD, when he was still that genial Bournemouth manager... and just look at him now!

I think viewer numbers to MotD last night probably increased out of sheer curiosity to see how it all went.... I switched off after a few minutes, having seen what I wanted earlier, live (worse luck...)....

Alan Hansen was good. But I find the Shearer , Murphy combo a switch off.