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  • Dave2002
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    • Dec 2010
    • 18023

    Re msg 1830, that kind of strategy has also been used by the Ukrainians. The ship sinking mentioned in post1829 was not just a result of a few missiles getting through, but a rather more coordinated attempt. One thing to note though is that when the Russians mount large attacks, as in the ones today, they often use very expensive kit, which of course is not immediately replaceable. This also applies to the Ukrainian strategies, but on the whole they do seem to be adopting a more targetted approach, and don't use the most expensive weapons and equipment unless absolutely necessary.

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    • HighlandDougie
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3094

      OK - it's not about Ukraine this time but, as I am loath to start a new thread on the Gaza situation, here are the latest musings of Sir Lawrence F:

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      • Frances_iom
        Full Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 2413

        Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
        OK - it's not about Ukraine this time but, as I am loath to start a new thread on the Gaza situation,...
        you are likely to get removed if you did so - I have restrained from much posting - my own moral compass is that there is no difference between the Hamas violence and that by the Israeli airforce in deliberate bombing of civilian infrastructure - both have the aim of killing + maiming non-combatants to push a political goal - Sir Lawrence maybe correct but my own estimate is that the actions in Gaza will be remembered - yea, unto the third generation.

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        • HighlandDougie
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 3094

          As usual, a well-written and dispassionate contribution from Sir Lawrence:

          A Ukrainian solider mans a trench in the Donetsk Oblast (Photo by Ignacio Marin/Anadolu via Getty Images)

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          • Frances_iom
            Full Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 2413

            Waiting for Sir Lawrence's comments on changing Generals mid war - especially as ammo is running short

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            • french frank
              Administrator/Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 30321

              Originally posted by Frances_iom View Post
              Waiting for Sir Lawrence's comments on changing Generals mid war - especially as ammo is running short
              Putin sacked Gerasimov mid-war too.
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • Frances_iom
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                • Mar 2007
                • 2413

                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                Putin sacked Gerasimov mid-war too.
                Ah, but that was only a special military operation - that's apparently very different from a war

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                • Retune
                  Full Member
                  • Feb 2022
                  • 316

                  Horribly predictable but still shocking when it actually happens:



                  'In a statement, the federal penitentiary service for the region where Navalny was incarcerated said that he had “felt unwell after a walk and almost immediately lost consciousness”.
                  “All necessary resuscitation measures were carried out but did not yield positive results,” the statement read. “The paramedics confirmed the death of the convict.”'

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                  • richardfinegold
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                    • Sep 2012
                    • 7668

                    R.I.P.

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                    • Frances_iom
                      Full Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 2413

                      just a tidying up exercise in advance of the publication of the 90% vote for Putin after the tedious business of putting on a facade of democracy - after all if he can't stand against a retired civil servant then he certainly didn't want Nevalny issuing a 'congratulatory' missive post event.

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                      • HighlandDougie
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3094

                        Again, not about Ukraine but dealing with France, the UK, NATO and Trump. As Sr L says, "Hopefully Trump will not get a second term and a transatlantic crisis can be avoided" - see for the full version https://samf.substack.com/p/trump-na...m_medium=email

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30321

                          Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
                          Again, not about Ukraine but dealing with France, the UK, NATO and Trump. As Sr L says, "Hopefully Trump will not get a second term and a transatlantic crisis can be avoided" - see for the full version https://samf.substack.com/p/trump-na...m_medium=email
                          I thought this might have been LF's comments on the latest from Avdiivka. No doubt they will follow.
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • HighlandDougie
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3094

                            More about Mad Vlad than Ukraine but interesting nonetheless:

                            A collection of essays, edited by Hal Brands, and published by Johns Hopkins University press, marks the two year anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

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                            • Dave2002
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 18023

                              Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
                              More about Mad Vlad than Ukraine but interesting nonetheless:

                              https://samf.substack.com/p/putin-th...m_medium=email
                              The book can indeed be downloaded for free - over 300 pages. Presumably different points of view - so not just LF's.

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                              • Frances_iom
                                Full Member
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 2413

                                Freedman's comment "The problem is not that he is irrational but the way that he has framed his Ukraine problem obliges him to act in ever more unreasonable ways, because to do otherwise would require giving in to forces that challenge his idea of the Russian nation and what is stands for." makes him the more dangerous in that he may well actually use a nuclear device rather than to face a defeat of a surviving, though heavily damaged, Ukraine. However there are equally blind fanatics in the USA who will not help Ukraine but stoke up middle east problems by arming Israel to make Gaza a wasteland and now to carry the war to Iran.

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