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  • burning dog
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 1511

    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
    How many others are as sickened as me by Boris Johnson's milking of Ukraine to boost his party's waning electoral prospects on Thursday and self-seeking one-upmanship on the world reputation stage? I feel an additional cause for sorrow for the people of Ukraine being subjected to Churchillian gestures bearing no weight of the experience of this man's record of insincerity and mendacity at home.
    Churchill is another person who wouldn't be able to compete with Boris’s "Oxford Union debating training."

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    • Serial_Apologist
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 37689

      Originally posted by burning dog View Post
      Churchill is another person who wouldn't be able to compete with Boris’s "Oxford Union debating training."
      I wouldn't even cross my legs to meet him.

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      • burning dog
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 1511

        A message from "the old sod"(as my grandad referred to him) to Boris



        Quote from a Daily Mail reader
        ****, 63, Warrington, United Kingdom, 7 months ago

        The only Churchill Johnson can be compared to is the nodding dog from the insurance adverts.

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37689

          Originally posted by burning dog View Post
          A message from "the old sod"(as my grandad referred to him) to Boris



          Quote from a Daily Mail reader
          ****, 63, Warrington, United Kingdom, 7 months ago

          The only Churchill Johnson can be compared to is the nodding dog from the insurance adverts.
          Oh YESSSHHH!!!

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          • oddoneout
            Full Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 9204

            Originally posted by burning dog View Post
            A message from "the old sod"(as my grandad referred to him) to Boris



            Quote from a Daily Mail reader
            ****, 63, Warrington, United Kingdom, 7 months ago

            The only Churchill Johnson can be compared to is the nodding dog from the insurance adverts.
            The nodding dog would be preferable to the feral toddler - at least it causes no harm.

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            • Jazzrook
              Full Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 3083

              Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
              Absolutely. See the recent Private Eye cover.


              JR

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              • muzzer
                Full Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 1192

                These people are a perpetual parade of what a stupid person thinks their rulers should look like. God help this country.

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                • Dave2002
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 18021

                  Originally posted by Jazzrook View Post
                  I meant the one with Zelensky and Bojo - but most of the recent ones are good!

                  This one - https://www.private-eye.co.uk/covers/cover-1571

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                  • teamsaint
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 25210

                    Originally posted by muzzer View Post
                    These people are a perpetual parade of what a stupid person thinks their rulers should look like. God help this country.
                    Given the woeful state of the so- called opposition, stupidity is having a great decade.
                    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                    • Dave2002
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 18021

                      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                      Given the woeful state of the so- called opposition, stupidity is having a great decade.
                      Given the woeful state of the so-called government, stupidity is having a great decade.

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                      • EnemyoftheStoat
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1132

                        Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                        Given the woeful state of the so-called government, stupidity is having a great decade.
                        Given the woeful state of the so-called electorate, stupidity is having a great decade.

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30300

                          Originally posted by EnemyoftheStoat View Post
                          Given the woeful state of the so-called electorate, stupidity is having a great decade.
                          "Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite." Joseph de Maistre
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30300

                            Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
                            Regarding resources, I recall recently reading somewhere that not that long ago under Ukraine's share of the Black Sea there had recently been discovered a large source of gas that would have ended Western dependency on Russian gas.

                            Just remembered the source of this - 'Price Wars' by Rupert Russell.
                            Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
                            Not if Ukraine could offer it cheaper? It would be competition.
                            I've been thinking about this. I can't believe the Black Sea gas field could 'end Western dependency on Russian gas' to such an extent that Russia is merely protecting its own economic interests. Russia is the biggest global exporter of gas, but not the biggest producer (the United States being the significantly biggest producer), so I can't see that Ukraine's gas resources would protect Russia's interests to any great degree. However, Ukraine's own gas production comes 90% from the Dnieper-Donetsk region, so gaining control of Donbas gives Russia a stranglehold on Ukrainian production, as would eventual control of the Black Sea field. It all points to the political strategy by ruining the Ukrainian economy rather than protecting Russian "security".
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • Dave2002
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 18021

                              Originally posted by EnemyoftheStoat View Post
                              Given the woeful state of the so-called electorate, stupidity is having a great decade.

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                              • Serial_Apologist
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 37689

                                Originally posted by EnemyoftheStoat View Post
                                Given the woeful state of the so-called electorate, stupidity is having a great decade.
                                "Some party hack decreed that the people had lost the confidence of the govrnment and could only regain it with doubled effort. If that is the case, would it not be simpler if the government simply dissolved the people, and elected another?" - Berthold Brecht.

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