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Originally posted by RichardB View PostYou see this kind of attitude in the Labour MP Chris Bryant's ill-conceived (and indeed rapidly withdrawn) statement that people with joint Russian/British nationality should be made to choose one or the other. Gergiev's friendship with and support for Putin has been well documented for years, and of course it should be that support and not his nationality which is taken into account.
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Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View PostWhere those tax avoidance manoeuvres are associated with kleptocracy (theft) I think it’s perfectly reasonable to withdraw dual nationality.
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Originally posted by RichardB View PostLet's not get carried away by comparisons to Hitler's invasions in the 1930s. Superficial similarities can only serve to distract from much more profound differences. The fact that Russian currency dropped in value by almost a third this morning, with further collapse likely, underlines the facts that (a) the economic structures of individual nations are interconnected in ways that didn't exist 80 years ago and (b) Russia is in an extremely dodgy position economically already, and this is cash draining out of the pockets of the kleptocrats who keep Putin in power. Additionally, Chinese support for Putin shouldn't be overstated - the Chinese delegation at the UNSC abstained on the resolution against the invasion rather than vetoing it, which in the end only Russia itself did.
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostGood points all except that I cannot imagine that the kleptocrats whom you mention hold the majority of their readily realisable assets in Roubles in Russia; I imagine that they would for the most part be held in other more stable currencies concealed behind series of impenetrable walls within offshore tax havens in the form of shell companies / trusts and the like, just as oligarchs' ownership of UK properties will almost certainly be concealed.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostA smaller area to take over but he would automatically be taking on NATO, wouldn't he?
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Originally posted by Frances_iom View Postthat would start WW3 - which may well happen anyway but an iron curtain is certainly descending at present - Germany must be regretting listening to the greens and shutting down their nuclear power stations - it wouldn't surprise me to find Russian money backing that green pressure as it has been a major driver to force dependence on Russian gas.
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Originally posted by Bryn View PostDo you have even a scrap of evidence to support your contention regarding the German Green and Russian Money? It seems unlikely, given the former's stance Cyprus seeking Russian aid.
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostGood points all except that I cannot imagine that the kleptocrats whom you mention hold the majority of their readily realisable assets in Roubles in Russia; I imagine that they would for the most part be held in other more stable currencies concealed behind series of impenetrable walls within offshore tax havens in the form of shell companies / trusts and the like, just as oligarchs' ownership of UK properties will almost certainly be concealed.
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Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View PostYes indeed timely as one of their roles is the defence of NATO’s Northern flank in Arctic Norway - though this appears to be a politically uncontroversial swamp . Army Recruitment tends to go up not down in periods of heightened tension possibly for not entirely wholesome reasons.
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....very few tanks deployed so far [with 8" armour]...what is getting destroyed by the Ukrainians is light-weight armour vehicles and troop carriers, that is why the Russian Reconaissance force is getting a belting, and is depleting Ukr ammo and troop deployment....
....faux peace talks surely for propoganda in Russia.....bong ching
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Originally posted by Bryn View PostIndeed, but you can bet your bottom dollar that there is a whole army of financial investigators and hackers digging deep to expose such concealment.Last edited by ahinton; 28-02-22, 21:46.
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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View PostYes that, but the whole tone of the ad and implied mentality of those likely to be attracted.....???
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