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  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
    • 37687

    Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
    The west surely is responsible for creating an environment in Russia in which someone like Putin has managed to do what he's done - also people like Tony Blair up until quite recently were still advocating working with him as an ally - Putin's Useful Centrist IDIOTS - YouTube​ - I've posted this link before but it's again relevant, and I entreat people to check out the whole chapter/book - that is, Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine - Russia's Shock Therapy: Neoliberalizing Russia | Shortform Books
    Thanks for those reminders, JK.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30299

      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
      BTW I wasn't aware that Putin had been offered membership of NATO - only "collaboration" - but I could be wrong.
      No, he wasn't offered membership. I can't remember the name of the grouping/status to which Russia belonged.

      Ah, the Partnership for Peace, followed by the NATO–Russia Founding Act.
      Last edited by french frank; 04-09-23, 20:10. Reason: Looked up what I'd forgotten
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • Petrushka
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 12252

        Originally posted by french frank View Post

        No, he wasn't offered membership. I can't remember the name of the grouping/status to which Russia belonged.
        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30299

          Thanks, Petrushka. Your post crossed with my edit.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • HighlandDougie
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3091

            Interesting take from a US expert - in conversation with Sir Lawrence



            P.S. Being a bit thick, can anyone explain to me how to navigate to the latest set of posts if one wants to add a new post, other than by endlessly clicking the forward arrow?

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            • Cockney Sparrow
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              • Jan 2014
              • 2284

              The way my browser (firefox) and this forum is set up (by and for me), I get the latest post at the top of the page.
              For me, at the very bottom of that page is a box with "Write something" and that is the place to post in reply.

              I'm not sure what I do to get that at the top of the page (as the latest) - possibly refresh the page (F5 for us us Windows wallahs). (On Edit - yes, Refresh brings it to the top of the page, in order as the latest).

              ON FURTHER EDIT: And, unobservant as usual, I missed a blue button on a grey (Ring Menu) bar) aboove the post at the top of the page - "Post Reply"
              Last edited by Cockney Sparrow; 06-09-23, 11:00.

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30299

                Originally posted by Cockney Sparrow View Post
                ON FURTHER EDIT: And, unobservant as usual, I missed a blue button on a grey (Ring Menu) bar) aboove the post at the top of the page - "Post Reply" [/I]
                And, also as usual, I couldn't see how to copy HD's post into Anomalies where I proposed to answer it There are a lot of adminstrative tools that aren't where they were (or anywhere that I can see), but otherwise, the more I use it, the more the site seems as easy as it used to be. I'll copy and paste HD's query into Anomalies and say a bit more there. Visually, I find the new layout clear and unfussy, albeit that a few actions remain elusive.

                Back on topic, thank you HD for that new link. Will investigate later.
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • eighthobstruction
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6440

                  ....what strange world we live in....when ever I hear the name Musk I think - fractals.....and I get a shiver down my spine, and gripping sensation in my being....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK2eKWk_SkQ
                  bong ching

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30299

                    Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                    ....what strange world we live in....when ever I hear the name Musk I think - fractals.....and I get a shiver down my spine, and gripping sensation in my being....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK2eKWk_SkQ
                    (though when I hear about fractals I think of romanesco broccoli).
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • eighthobstruction
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 6440

                      ....that's funny indication of romanesco broccoli makes me think of tardigrades....
                      bong ching

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37687

                        Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                        ....that's funny indication of romanesco broccoli makes me think of tardigrades....:biggrin
                        Are tardigrades degrees Sunak wants removed from college courses?

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post

                          Are tardigrades degrees Sunak wants removed from college courses?

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30299

                            "[Emperor] Kim Jong-un pledges to support Putin and Russia ‘in fight against imperialism’ "

                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • Serial_Apologist
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37687

                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              "[Emperor] Kim Jong-un pledges to support Putin and Russia ‘in fight against imperialism’ "

                              This crazy miscast usage of Leninist language by one régime that no longer defines itself as socialist and by another committed to re-creating a Russian form of capitalism, if there could be such a thing! It's enough to make a good Marxist weep!

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                              • Frances_iom
                                Full Member
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 2413

                                Been quite a bit since anything was posted - rather like the rest of the media Ukraine has been placed here in the forget about it pile.
                                There was a further page on Lawrence's substack section in which he stated "Before that there’s going to be a big test this winter, if Russians try to take out the electricity system again. I think Ukraine is far better prepared than they were a year ago. But that came quite close to success last December."​ I recall saying that the Russian attack on infrastructure was a key point - looks as tho I had the correct idea - I suspect it was a close run thing and wonder if there are enough spares in Europe to sustain another all out war on infrastructure especially engery + what is left of district heating networks.

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