Why do we even allow people like this to "own" land in the UK?

[vinteuil]

I still don't see why people who misuse their power should be allowed to own property in the UK.

... if we need to have a test to determine how virtuous one is before being allowed to own property



Serial Apologist may be in favour of a Committee of Public Safety which might decide on such things

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_of_Public_Safety

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[french frank]

Which - as you will have guessed - is where we disagree.

I wonder if we do :-). I anticipated your reaction so added the words 'most immediately' ('the problem lies most immediately with'). If we have to wait until the system has been changed before individual cases are dealt with, we'll be waiting a long time to see any result. That's where I saw a parallel with religion. Thinking that by tackling 'religion'/a religion - the root cause - before tackling individual abuses allows the abuses to continue longer, surely? But I do tend to favour praxis over doxa. We might differ in that

[Serial_Apologist]

... if we need to have a test to determine how virtuous one is before being allowed to own property



Serial Apologist may be in favour of a Committee of Public Safety which might decide on such things

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_of_Public_Safety

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Oh mine would have to be democratically constituted It could rule on pressing issues of what was PC and not.

[Dave2002]

In the meantime the only comment of note has been by a former Foreign Secretary - Malcolm Rifkind. Complete waste of time - totally ineffective. So much for the UK's influence in the world. I suppose that means that after a day or two this will blow over. The UK will continue to buy oil and sell weapons to states with very dubious "credentials". It's easier than upsetting any boats.

[gradus]

According Gov.UK:
In 2018, exports to the UAE from the UK totalled more than £10.5 billion and we had a trade surplus of more than £4 billion (ONS, 2018).The majority of the UAE’s population consists of expats, including a considerable British presence. British companies operating in the UAE include BP, Shell, Rolls-Royce, BAE Systems, Mott McDonald, HSBC, Marks and Spencer, Waitrose and John Lewis. Many Emiratis have studied and have homes in the UK, and have a taste for British goods.here are opportunities for UK companies across a broad range of industries. Our trade advisers in the UAE have identified particular opportunities for UK businesses in the following sectors.

Education and training
Energy
Financial and professional services
Healthcare Infrastructure

That's mainly why kidnappers are allowed to own property here.

[Serial_Apologist]

According Gov.UK:
In 2018, exports to the UAE from the UK totalled more than £10.5 billion and we had a trade surplus of more than £4 billion (ONS, 2018).The majority of the UAE’s population consists of expats, including a considerable British presence. British companies operating in the UAE include BP, Shell, Rolls-Royce, BAE Systems, Mott McDonald, HSBC, Marks and Spencer, Waitrose and John Lewis. Many Emiratis have studied and have homes in the UK, and have a taste for British goods.here are opportunities for UK companies across a broad range of industries. Our trade advisers in the UAE have identified particular opportunities for UK businesses in the following sectors.

Education and training
Energy
Financial and professional services
Healthcare Infrastructure

That's mainly why kidnappers are allowed to own property here.

One supposes they make the bars they put over windows themselves....

[vinteuil]

That's mainly why kidnappers are allowed to own property here.

... lots of evil British people own stuff here.
Why stop evil non-British people owning stuff here?
Seems discriminatory to me


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[Serial_Apologist]

... lots of evil British people own stuff here.
Why stop evil non-British people owning stuff here?
Seems discriminatory to me


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[gradus]

... lots of evil British people own stuff here.
Why stop evil non-British people owning stuff here?
Seems discriminatory to me


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Too liberal by half.

[Frances_iom]

one approach the UK other governments could do is to require a health warning to be issued with all adverts for Dubai based travel/holidays that the legal system is despotic and if the Ruler is involved no local lawyer will touch the case.

[Dave2002]

As I suspected this "news item" has now submerged, though the current Foreign Secretary has now given statements and mentioned things like "quiet diplomacy" and "behind the scenes discussions".

Yes - owning property abroad is an issue, and of course many British people do have foreign assets or holiday homes. Also if one is going to allow "ordinary folk" to own a humble shack in (say) France or Italy, why shouldn't one allow a foreign billionaire to own property in the UK. A significantly large amount of property in London is left unoccupied by the foreigners who own them.

Sometimes one has to apply discriminatory "principles" - since there is nothing absolute about most rules - more a continuum. The notion of rules which are "black and white" just doesn't work, it seems to me. Basing all behaviour on rigid rules and rigid interpretations of those rules doesn't work.

Seems that many are happy to sup with the devil as long as others are doing the dirty work for them.

[eighthobstruction]

Seems that many are happy to sup with the devil as long as others are doing the dirty work for them.

....well the Father and the Son have the Holy Ghost doing some sort of mysterious thing that we don't get reports on....some sort of propinquity going on, probably just filling in forms - applying for Universal Credit.....

[french frank]

As I suspected this "news item" has now submerged, though the current Foreign Secretary has now given statements and mentioned things like "quiet diplomacy" and "behind the scenes discussions".

If it disappears from the daily news, it will presumably be because there's nothing new to report. The UAE is a member of the UN and the UN is pursuing it.

[Dave2002]

If it disappears from the daily news, it will presumably be because there's nothing new to report. The UAE is a member of the UN and the UN is pursuing it.

Some devils - some spoons - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56119788

The distinct sense from within racing is that with these latest allegations relating to overseas matters involving a head of state of one of the UK's strategic partners and purchaser of arms exports in the Middle East, and with the government referring the matter to the UN, it is unfair to expect the sport to make a stand and speak out against one of its most important benefactors.

Huh....!!!

Others however, disagree.

"No matter how much money he pays to race his horses, no respectable race should touch Dubai ruler Sheikh Mohammed al-Maktoum until he releases his daughter" tweeted Kenneth Roth, the executive director of Human Rights Watch, this week.

[Serial_Apologist]

Some devils - some spoons - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56119788



Huh....!!!

Others however, disagree.

All races are respectable.