Has anyone perceived a single Brexit benefit yet?

[Serial_Apologist]

Robert Peston has interesting things to say on this.

This episode will be an object lesson for future journalism on even handed ,( or otherwise,) reporting,where the full story ,rather than edited highlights, is important.

Well, to me, full stories consist in edited highlights in the mindsets of many reporters and/or editors/proprietors.

[teamsaint]

Well, to me, full stories consist in edited highlights in the mindsets of many reporters and/or editors/proprietors.

Worth a read, whether full story or not.

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-01-26/covid-vaccine-what-is-the-dispute-between-the-eu-and-astrazeneca

[Bert]

Worth a read, whether full story or not.

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-01-26/...nd-astrazeneca

https://www.euronews.com/2021/01/26/covid-19-vaccinations-in-europe-which-countries-are-leading-the-way

Scroll down to the map and hover over the country to see the vaccine roll out progress.


The UK's vaccination roll out is a very tangible benefit of Brexit. Highly tangible because, as we all know, Covid-19 is the biggest issue facing mankind and the scientists believe that vaccination is the only way out of the nightmare (happily Merkel, Johnson, Macron, Joe Biden, et al agree). UK is approaching 11 million and the highest EU nation, Germany is barely over 2 million. We are fortunate that the UK is not shackled with the EU's shambolic procurement process and the challenges of dealing with 27 nation states with different circumstances.

I'm still worried about the extra cost of my CD parcels from EU and Swiss Amazon market sellers, though!

[Bryn]

https://www.euronews.com/2021/01/26/...eading-the-way

Scroll down to the map and hover over the country to see the vaccine roll out progress.


The UK's vaccination roll out is a very tangible benefit of Brexit. Highly tangible because, as we all know, Covid-19 is the biggest issue facing mankind and the scientists believe that vaccination is the only way out of the nightmare (happily Merkel, Johnson, Macron, Joe Biden, et al agree). UK is approaching 11 million and the highest EU nation, Germany is barely over 2 million. We are fortunate that the UK is not shackled with the EU's shambolic procurement process and the challenges of dealing with 27 nation states with different circumstances.

I'm still worried about the extra cost of my CD parcels from EU and Swiss Amazon market sellers, though!

One wonders, would the EU procurement arrangements have been better coordinated had the UK still been an active member? That might have been to the benefit of all EU citizens.

[ardcarp]

The EU is bound to feel the need to give its naughty runaway sister a bit of a kicking to avoid encourager les autres. I cannot blame them. However it is a great shame that this first of many spats is about such a serious global matter which affects all humanity. Of course I am glad the UK has got off to a flying start with vaccination...eve if it is less than 10% of our population....and I hope all of Europe, EU member or not, will realise its responsibility to the rest of the world, especially the deprived bits.

[Bert]

The EU is bound to feel the need to give its naughty runaway sister a bit of a kicking to avoid encourager les autres. I cannot blame them. However it is a great shame that this first of many spats is about such a serious global matter which affects all humanity. Of course I am glad the UK has got off to a flying start with vaccination...eve if it is less than 10% of our population....and I hope all of Europe, EU member or not, will realise its responsibility to the rest of the world, especially the deprived bits.

I agree with you. It's a shame that he EU doesn't see it the same way as you and me. Regarding controlling the supply of vaccines, EU Health Commissioner Stella Kyriakides has made it very clear that EU citizens come first, saying the EU "will take any action required to protect its citizens and its rights". Human nature I suppose.

Here's the FT's take on it.

https://www.ft.com/content/044ef5c8-d07e-47df-9264-769457130991

[Bert]

One wonders, would the EU procurement arrangements have been better coordinated had the UK still been an active member? That might have been to the benefit of all EU citizens.

This one doesn't wonder. The EU roll out is a bureaucratic policy shambles and adding an extra nation state into the mix would almost certainly make it worse, even though I'd still get my EU and Swiss CD parcels cost effectively

[oddoneout]

The EU is bound to feel the need to give its naughty runaway sister a bit of a kicking to avoid encourager les autres. I cannot blame them. However it is a great shame that this first of many spats is about such a serious global matter which affects all humanity. Of course I am glad the UK has got off to a flying start with vaccination...eve if it is less than 10% of our population....and I hope all of Europe, EU member or not, will realise its responsibility to the rest of the world, especially the deprived bits.

Isn't that part of the Oxford vaccine ethos? Producing something which doesn't need onerous or unrealistic storage and handling infrastructure. Although refrigeration still causes problems(and I gather still threatens the efficacy of current vaccine programmes) solutions are more realistic than the likes of the Pfizer freezers.

[Frances_iom]

isn't the strange point that their dispute is with the manufacturer of a vaccine not yet authorised for use in the EU (tho this is expected on Friday) and if the German press is to believed possibly may not be licenced for use with the European equivalent of the UK's top 4 priority classes.

[Serial_Apologist]

We are fortunate that the UK is not shackled with the EU's shambolic procurement process and the challenges of dealing with 27 nation states with different circumstances.

Whereas the UK is shackled with government strategies which have continually led to the highest death rate among Covid victims anywhere.

[mikealdren]

Of course I am glad the UK has got off to a flying start with vaccination...eve if it is less than 10% of our population....

Or even if it is more than 10% of the population based on today's figures.

[Bert]

Whereas the UK is shackled with government strategies which have continually led to the highest death rate among Covid victims anywhere.

Nonsense. Our Covid death rate is statistically indistinguishable from 9 European states that sadly head the global table. Belgium is the worst on the planet and San Marino is giving them a run for their money. Seems like it's a European problem.

[Serial_Apologist]

Nonsense. Our Covid death rate is statistically indistinguishable from 9 European states that sadly head the global table. Belgium is the worst on the planet and San Marino is giving them a run for their money. Seems like it's a European problem.

Not what we were just told on the BBC lunchtime news.

[Bryn]

Nonsense. Our Covid death rate is statistically indistinguishable from 9 European states that sadly head the global table. Belgium is the worst on the planet and San Marino is giving them a run for their money. Seems like it's a European problem.

I suggest you take a look at https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

In deaths per 100.000, the UK is the world leader, though the Czech Republic and Italy are not far behind.

[teamsaint]

Not what we were just told on the BBC lunchtime news.

Our very high obesity levels have certainly been a factor in the high levels of hospitalisations and deaths.
Nuance isn’t always the BBCs biggest strength these days.