Trade Deal, or No Deal...

[teamsaint]

ttip? (that's supposed to be in capital letters)

T T I P

Mine was, as I'm sure you were aware,but just for clarity , a rhetorical question.

The nature of the proposed new agreement needs much wider public focus than it currently has.

[french frank]

Mine was, as I'm sure you were aware,but just for clarity , a rhetorical question.

The nature of the proposed new agreement needs much wider public focus than it currently has.

It does. Being of a somewhat extreme and fanatical nature, I think the EU stood a better chance of striking a good deal for the UK with TTIP than the UK has with the TPP.

[teamsaint]

Lots of nice 69 p aubergines at Aldi today.

[french frank]

Lots of nice 69 p aubergines at Aldi today.

Do you get the impression that there's more of a problem with exports than imports?

[teamsaint]

Do you get the impression that there's more of a problem with exports than imports?

That is probably the case, and was always in the government’s thinking, IIRC . ( keeping the borders open for food and medicine imports in the event of a no deal?)

There don’t seem to be issues in our industry, but then AFAIK books ( and print supplies?) are mostly not subject to controls.

And in any case, people in the trade seem to be waiting and hoping, from the questions I have asked......

Edit: I assume you weren’t referring to UK aubergine exports

[muzzer]

I thought we’d had enough of exports?

[french frank]

I thought we’d had enough of exports?

Oh, gove us a break! I suppose it is more against our interests to delay essential imports from the EU, than it is against the EU's to facilitate imports from the UK?

[oddoneout]

L'entente gets more cordiale...

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/feb/14/as-half-its-sales-are-wiped-out-silk-firm-joins-exodus-to-europe

At least it's not a firm going under completely, but it is employment and business leaving the UK, and presumably it is unlikely to be feasible to offer the UK staff jobs abroad in the relocated facility?

[french frank]

L'entente gets more cordiale...

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/feb/14/as-half-its-sales-are-wiped-out-silk-firm-joins-exodus-to-europe

At least it's not a firm going under completely, but it is employment and business leaving the UK, and presumably it is unlikely to be feasible to offer the UK staff jobs abroad in the relocated facility?

If there isn't a word for this, then one should be invented. It isn't Schadenfreude because one can enjoy, relish that. But the anger and sadness in saying "We told you so" is something different.

[oddoneout]

If there isn't a word for this, then one should be invented. It isn't Schadenfreude because one can enjoy, relish that. But the anger and sadness in saying "We told you so" is something different.

Cloth ears?

[Howdenite]

The UK is phasing in import checks for three to six months, depending on the items being imported. The EU imposed customs checks immediately. Expect to see more changes April to July.

[jayne lee wilson]

The UK is phasing in import checks for three to six months, depending on the items being imported. The EU imposed customs checks immediately. Expect to see more changes April to July.

Yes... more details here.....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/07/british-importers-brace-for-disaster-as-new-brexit-checks-loom

...exhausting just to read it, but to try to live with it...?
Many businesses are considering or in the process of setting up EU Subsidiaries.....future implications?
Phew.... so that's what they meant by "control of our money, our laws and our borders..."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55786974

[french frank]

Yes... more details here.....
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...it-checks-loom

And it's 'all the fault of the businesses' as they've been given 'enough warning'

"How are these checks at border control posts going to work? If you unload 80 boxes from a lorry, where do you put them to inspect them? If we are talking about the docks at Killingholme, how on Earth are they going to manage to do that?"

[Serial_Apologist]

Cloth ears?

Wisdom after as well as before the event?

[oddoneout]

And it's 'all the fault of the businesses' as they've been given 'enough warning'

"How are these checks at border control posts going to work? If you unload 80 boxes from a lorry, where do you put them to inspect them? If we are talking about the docks at Killingholme, how on Earth are they going to manage to do that?"

Trouble is, 'giving warning' isn't the same as providing adequate information and resources to deal with the changes. For some reason it brings to mind Aunt Ada Doom and her "something nasty in the woodshed", which everyone knows of but not what it actually was or, in this case, is.
From the Guardian article this I find telling

“Government stands ready to help businesses keep their goods flowing smoothly,”

- yup standing around doing b- all, and evaporating when asked to provide answers. Shades of leadership being about seeing which way the people are headed and then getting to the front of them.