How many of these ‘paperwork delays’ are to be permanent features because they were not covered in the trade deal which was rushed through over Christmas - eg very worrying that the Fisheries Minister was too busy with a Nativity Trail on Christmas Eve and did not have time to read the swathe of papers on the deal. Boris claims to have read them all but then he has been known to think on the hoof and be economical with the truth. The recent mention of compensation for Scottish fish exporters clearly put George Eustice on the spot in the house as it had clearly never been discussed in Cabinet. Am I being pessimistic to think that the ‘deal’ is going to be very costly to the UK!
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That is a seriously misleading selective quote TS...."anachronistic" refers to the CD medium.... at the end of the article Mojo say "it is still a live issue". As it is for dozens of small businesses, imports and exports all over the place: slower and more expensive. As it is for many on alternative EU-sourced medicines. This might easily affect prescription meds from the EU too. As for freelancers in many professions..... well, you already know, and it isn't just music...did you read the Government reply, in the inboxes last week, to the campaign? What a load of mealy-mouthed, EU-blaming drivel...Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
Its here, its no good, after all the rhetorical campaigning and post-referendum lies, much that we remainers warned about is coming true.... the fishing industry that voted for Brexit is being woefully betrayed; as Rees-Mogg (a chief UK cheerleader for Trump) boasts, in that appalling hooray-henry old-etonian voice, about "British Fish" being "better and happier" for being British....
It will not "settle down" or improve quickly.....negotiations will continue indefinitely, as we always knew and said............ it is profoundly depressing....Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 16-01-21, 13:30.Comment
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I selected that quote to highlighted that particular point about CDs and as I mentioned, on that point, ( being “ increasingly anachronistic” the article effectively counters itself . It wasn’t to make a point about the wider issue of availability.Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
It isn’t a seriously misleading quote at all. It is highlighting a specific point.
I work in sales for a small publisher, I am very well aware of the issues that we face in import/ export, and in other areas of life.Last edited by teamsaint; 16-01-21, 13:39.I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.Comment
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The French have form in using bureaucracy to limit trade - recall their use many years ago the need for all Japanese DVRs to go thru Poitiers in order to be certified fit for import.Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
I suspect once the EU start being nasty re acceptance of UK based financial services and many of the well paid City jobs cease to be available even Westminster based politicians will realise that the UK will pay a very considerable price for those lying slogans on the sides of buses.Comment
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The Rees-Mogg quote.....
'The key is we’ve got our fish back,' he told MPs. 'They’re now British fish and they’re better and happier fish for it'
......and the manner of its delivery, sums up the reality of Brexit all too well.... just watch the dead-giveaway body language here....
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No, not being pessimistic I think, especially once you factor in the costs which were already known about through having to replicate various functions previously shared with/done through the EU, and that would be in addition to whatever the deal threw up.Originally posted by cloughie View Post
Just been reading in the agriculture section of the weekend paper an interview with a pig farmer who has(that may well be 'had' before too long) a market in Germany(for salami and cured meat) for his culled breeding sows. They aren't being accepted for slaughter due to fears about rejected shipments, and the slaughterhouses are in any case under pressure due tio Covid outbreaks. It's 72 pages of paperwork to get a load to Germany he says, and breeding herds throughout the country will face the same problems of surplus stock needing to be fed and housed with limited access at best to their current market and no alternative market in this country.
The pig industry knew there would be an increase in admin, but not at this level, which is considered excessive. The current situation is another example I suspect of government being ignorant of the details of trade into the EU. The deal, such as it is, was done at the last minute but if the necessary work had been put in during the post referendum years then there shouldn't have been so many last minute gaping holes and unpleasant surprises, as the detail would have been for the most part worked out and different scenarios worked through.Comment
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Not sure that having our fish back because we can’t deliver it is a positive - it stinks!Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View PostComment
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Wasn't there talk of an Australian style deal - perhaps it included boomerang fish.Originally posted by cloughie View PostComment
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The EU farmers will be quite happy - the possibly higher quality British products will be removed from the market - is there any other market within 24hrs transport for refrigerated produce - as Macron said leaving the EU was based on lies + deception.
ETA the EU need only keep up the bureaucracy for a few months to completely destroy British markets which once lost will be difficult to re-establish.Comment
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Why doesn't Eton teach its boys [sic] to grow up? I'm quite curious as to how different people react to what is 'guidance' or 'advice' rather than the law. I don't feel unreasonably coerced by the coronavirus 'advice', and take the compliant view that if that's the advice, I'll stick to it. I think others measure the advice against what they want/feel/need/must do and think it's only advice, not the law so I can risk crossing tiers to go to the only Latin mass in the Clifton diocese, which I am obliged to do. Clearly, there are exceptional circumstances, but how do we estimate our 'exceptionalism'?Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
No need to mention faulty grammar :-)It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.Comment
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Do we have a trade deal with China? https://euromeatnews.com/Article-Chi...A-analyst/3925Originally posted by Frances_iom View PostComment
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In the case of Tony Abbott I imagine Australia hopes that's the case. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ott-trade-roleOriginally posted by cloughie View PostComment
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Blessed are the cheese-makers - not.
What I find so despicable is that here is someone who voted Remain, but rolled up his sleeves and got on with dealing with Brexit, only to find himself foundering on a barrier no-one this side had thought about. His comments about the benefits to France of having to re-arrange his business, and the effects on employment in this country, ought to give someone pause for thought as he won't be an isolated case. It won't though. "Initial difficulties/teething problems" seems to be the standard response.Comment
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I particularly "liked" this bit:Originally posted by oddoneout View PostBlessed are the cheese-makers - not.
What I find so despicable is that here is someone who voted Remain, but rolled up his sleeves and got on with dealing with Brexit, only to find himself foundering on a barrier no-one this side had thought about. His comments about the benefits to France of having to re-arrange his business, and the effects on employment in this country, ought to give someone pause for thought as he won't be an isolated case. It won't though. "Initial difficulties/teething problems" seems to be the standard response.
However, the article does suggest that there is a department in the EU looking at trade barriers like this, and hopefully eventually coming up with a sensible solution. In the meantime though this particular cheese maker seems likely to have relocated.To save his business he will now have to switch a £1m investment he was planning to make in a new distribution centre in Macclesfield to the EU, with the loss of 20 jobs and tax revenue to the UK.
“It is a real shame because that means I’m now going to invest in France, provide French employment, and then contribute to the EU tax system, which was pretty much going against the whole reason that we were meant to be leaving.”
I guess he's rather cheesed off.Comment
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