Coronavirus: social, economic and other changes as a result of the pandemic

[johnb]

... is probably the answer that applies to me. I think I got the 11% by misreading something on the gov.uk dashboard front page.
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However, more generally I did (I think) the same as you except I use the "date reported" figures and deliberately overlook the shortcomings of this - because when comparing 7 day averages, 7 days apart, you are at least comparing like-with-like all the way up to today's data.
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(With apologies to the non-data people as the other Coronavirus thread usually gets used by we number wranglers)

I've replied using today's data, etc, etc on the Coronavirus thread as that seems a more appropriate place.

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?21399-Coronavirus&p=835834#post835834

[Dave2002]

Not sure whether to comment here or on a more music related thread, but recent comments about the Proms and the possibility of there being some, prompted me to look for opera performances in the UK over the summer. So far all of the following have stated that they will try to put on performances:

Holland Park
Garsington Opera
Grange Park Opera
Longborough
Grange Festival Opera
Glyndebourne
West Green Opera

Holland Park appears to be intending to operate with a much restricted audience capacity, and what may be really satisfactory social distancing - though how that is going to work with the whole experience (for example entrance doors, toilet facilities etc.) I don't know.

I think that several of these enterprises may try really hard to make things work, but big questions will remain.

Will anyone actually risk going to any of the events being put on? What's available looks good, but would people want to go and risk catching such a deadly disease? To put the vaccines to the test perhaps?

[oddoneout]

Not sure whether to comment here or on a more music related thread, but recent comments about the Proms and the possibility of there being some, prompted me to look for opera performances in the UK over the summer. So far all of the following have stated that they will try to put on performances:

Holland Park
Garsington Opera
Grange Park Opera
Longborough
Grange Festival Opera
Glyndebourne
West Green Opera

Holland Park appears to be intending to operate with a much restricted audience capacity, and what may be really satisfactory social distancing - though how that is going to work with the whole experience (for example entrance doors, toilet facilities etc.) I don't know.

I think that several of these enterprises may try really hard to make things work, but big questions will remain.

Will anyone actually risk going to any of the events being put on? What's available looks good, but would people want to go and risk catching such a deadly disease? To put the vaccines to the test perhaps?

I have a feeling that there will be plenty of folk wanting to go to such things, and if they've been vaccinated(which given the general demographic of such audiences will be the majority?) may well assume there's no risk in doing so.

[Simon B]

I have a feeling that there will be plenty of folk wanting to go to such things, and if they've been vaccinated(which given the general demographic of such audiences will be the majority?) may well assume there's no risk in doing so.

With the exception of a Jan-Mar/21 run of Tosca (which I think people sensed was doomed by changes in the Covid situation which occurred just as it went on sale) most of the various restricted-audience events at the ROH from mid-2020 were either well or totally sold, though quite a few ended up being subsequently cancelled. The RLPO put on 40-odd restricted-audience concerts before being closed down in Dec/20 and the picture was similar there. Presumably their net losses were increased each and every time they put one of these on, but that's not entirely the point.

They, of course, are distinguished from many other major performing groups by having control over their own venue. Ditto, sort-of, many of the above-mentioned opera orgs. If you're the LPO or WNO and your venue is shuttered, there's not a lot you can do even if you want to try...

[Anastasius]

The point was that a certain proportion of the population is not locked down, certainly workwise. So with , say, 30 % of the population which is going to work etc, there is a limit to how far a lockdown can suppress the spread.

I was responding to Simon B’s # 379, which had stats showing a gradually reducing level of fall in cases.

Thank you for the clarification.

[Bryn]

Slipped in under the cover of the pandemic?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/26/nhs-gp-practice-operator-with-500000-patients-passes-into-hands-of-us-health-insurer?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1614370925

[oddoneout]

Slipped in under the cover of the pandemic?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...box=1614370925

Makes you wonder how many more?
This

Operose confirmed the change of control, saying: “The care that we deliver to our patients and the services accessed through our surgeries will not change.

I think should have a caveat - "So long as our profit margins are not affected". This is not a philanthropic exercise.

[Anastasius]

Looks like A T Medics had a very comfortable balance sheet.

[DracoM]

<< This is not a philanthropic exercise>>

Telling me! The concerns making an absolute *****ing fortune out of Covid................

[ardcarp]

Tim Harford's 'How to Vaccinate the World' was especially interesting on Monday:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000sqrk

Three experts, prompted very succinctly by Tim, discussed the pitfalls of Vaccination Passports. It's a very tricky subject which some see as a means of 'freedom' but others see as a cock-up waiting to happen.

[Frances_iom]

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Three experts, prompted very succinctly by Tim, discussed the pitfalls of Vaccination Passports. It's a very tricky subject which some see as a means of 'freedom' but others see as a cock-up waiting to happen.

with BoJo anywhere near the controls my guess is a very expensive cock up however I can see advantages in the short term in their use if the science determines that the protection against both serious illness and onward transmission lasts for more than a couple of months (and of are not negated by new variants)

[french frank]

Bit puzzled by this notice, fixed to a post on the main road today: three logos at the bottom, from right: Bristol City Council, HM Government and, in the red ellipse, the EU (EU Regional Development Fund). Hadn't the UK left the EU by the time the coronavirus struck?

[teamsaint]

Bit puzzled by this notice, fixed to a post on the main road today: three logos at the bottom, from right: Bristol City Council, HM Government and, in the red ellipse, the EU (EU Regional Development Fund). Hadn't the UK left the EU by the time the coronavirus struck?

Quite a few covid signs round Andover with EU logos on too. I was puzzled .

[oddoneout]

Bit puzzled by this notice, fixed to a post on the main road today: three logos at the bottom, from right: Bristol City Council, HM Government and, in the red ellipse, the EU (EU Regional Development Fund). Hadn't the UK left the EU by the time the coronavirus struck?

If money had been applied for and received from the fund it wouldn't have disappeared overnight when Brexit kicked in?

The ERDF programme continues to invest in projects after the transition period ended on 31 December 2020. All funding must finish by the end of 2023.

Although I do wonder about its use, if that is what is happening, for such signage as it doesn't seem to fit the specification and purposes of the Fund.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/draft-european-regional-development-fund-operational-programme-2014-to-2020

[french frank]

If money had been applied for and received from the fund it wouldn't have disappeared overnight when Brexit kicked in? Although I do wonder about its use, if that is what is happening, for such signage as it doesn't seem to fit the specification and purposes of the Fund.
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...e-2014-to-2020

This may be the answer: Bristol, for instance, was to receive (dated May 2020) £416,000 for measures including street signage to enable high streets to open safely (when allowed):

"The Ministry of House, Communities & Local Government has announced a new £50 million fund for councils across England to prepare for the safe reopening of high streets and other retail spaces. The money comes from the European Regional Development Fund (ERDF) that the government is making available to councils to support businesses to re-open safely … It will also support a range of practical safety measures including new signs, street markings and temporary barriers."

https://www.john-gaunt.co.uk/news/covid-19-what-you-need-to-know-50-million-boost-to-support-the-recovery-of-our-high-streets