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  • teamsaint
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 25226

    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
    Any idea what percentage Amazon takes/makes on a Kindle sale, ts?
    All I could find after a quick Google search seemed to relate to self-publishing.
    Amazon receive somewhere around their standard trade discount, ie the same as they get on print books. For most publishers this would be a bit north of 50% , depending on whether a title is being promoted.
    You can safely assume that after some other ( non amazon ) fees, the publisher will get a bit more than 40% of what you pay on an ebook.
    Unfortuntaly , there is next to no competition in the ebooks market, though you can buy through Hive , WHS and I think Waterstones. Not sure how user- friendly these platforms are though.

    As a bit of general guidance,we ( and I expect this applies elsewhere) tend to receive a pretty similar net price in all of the major channels. We tend to try to support non Amazon channels, ( indies, indie onliners, wholesalers) as a way of keeping our customer base diverse.

    Thanks for your enquiry !!
    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30456

      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
      We should all think very carefully where we spend our money over the next two months, if we don’t want future choice very badly eroded.
      Pleased to see our local traders beginning to take matters in their stride (with efficient deliveries). A bit more expensive than the Coop, which I would still patronise if I ever went out; but at least I'm doing more cooking and less eating out which keeps the weekly food bill manageable.

      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
      The newly launching Bookshop .org , which similar to Hive is another way of supporting your local indie bookshop while getting a good price.
      Will look over it, but unfortunately I'm always looking for a specific title, usually OoP, so I buy it where I can find it. Amazon traders must make some profit or they wouldn't use them in the first place. Fortunately, I have many many unread books, so this concentrates my mind on what I have. Less choice to bewilder me.

      Thinking on, I very seldom buy anything at all except food and books.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • Dave2002
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 18035

        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        Pleased to see our local traders beginning to take matters in their stride (with efficient deliveries). A bit more expensive than the Coop, which I would still patronise if I ever went out; but at least I'm doing more cooking and less eating out which keeps the weekly food bill manageable.
        Oh dear - and shame on you () - not supporting the local eateries.

        We did support some - and some not so local - while the Eat out to Help Out scheme was running, and now it seems that that "initiative" may have made at least a modest contribution to the worsening of the state of the UK re "controlling" (imagines a Playstation controller) the virus.

        I just went out to buy some eggs - urgently required for a cooking experiment, and found the local garage store (about 4 miles) had a couple of boxes of localish free range eggs for about £3 - for the two. Otherwise I would have had to go around 8 miles to Lidl - which in fairness round here does have some local produce.
        Last edited by Dave2002; 01-11-20, 17:33.

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        • cloughie
          Full Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 22182

          Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
          Oh dear - and shame on you () - not supporting the local eateries.

          We did support some - and some not so local - while the Eat out to Help Out scheme was running, and now it seems that that "initiative" may have made at least a modest contribution to the worsening of the state of the UK re "controlling" (imagines a Playstation controller) the virus.

          I just went out to buy some eggs - urgently required for a cooking experiment, and found the local garage store (about 4 miles) had a couple of boxes of localish free range eggs for £3 - for the two. Otherwise i would have had to go around 8 miles to Lidl - which in fairness round here does have some local produce.
          £3 for the two not that bad a price for a local convenience store - I’m intrigued by the ‘ urgently requied forva cooking experiment’ - alchemy?

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          • Pulcinella
            Host
            • Feb 2014
            • 11062

            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
            £3 for the two not that bad a price for a local convenience store - I’m intrigued by the ‘ urgently requied forva cooking experiment’ - alchemy?
            Me too!
            I think we should be told (on the What are you cooking (or even baking) now thread).

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37814

              Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
              Me too!
              I think we should be told (on the What are you cooking (or even baking) now thread).
              Double double,
              Toil and trouble;
              Fire burn,
              And cauldron bubble.

              Leftovers from Dave2002's Trick or Treat rampage last night!



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              • Dave2002
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 18035

                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                Double double,
                Toil and trouble;
                Fire burn,
                And cauldron bubble.

                Leftovers from Dave2002's Trick or Treat rampage last night!



                Witches Sabbath! Did anyone play Berlioz last night?

                Actually was for lunch today - pudding was some form of sticky toffee apple pudding - to use up a few large cooking apples we'd been given.

                There was an "Oh dear **** we need eggs for the pudding moment this morning.

                Experimental because the recipe has not been tried by us before. Half of it still left - very tasty.

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                • teamsaint
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 25226

                  Apparently National trust Gardens and Parks are remaining open during groudhog lockdown.

                  I just booked up to visit Mottisfont on Saturday, which should be nice.
                  I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                  I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                  • Dave2002
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 18035

                    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                    Apparently National trust Gardens and Parks are remaining open during groudhog lockdown.

                    I just booked up to visit Mottisfont on Saturday, which should be nice.
                    https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/mottisfont Good place to visit. We saw part of a production of Pride and Prejudice there. It was raining very hard, and we got very wet up to the interval. Then "we" decided to leave.

                    I wanted to stay on - I was already soaked through - to see what happened in the end!

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30456

                      Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                      I wanted to stay on - I was already soaked through - to see what happened in the end!
                      Reader, she married him
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • Leinster Lass
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2020
                        • 1099

                        Originally posted by french frank View Post
                        Reader, she married him
                        Wasn't that Jane Eyre?

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                        • Dave2002
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 18035

                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          Reader, she married him
                          Wrong book! I see I was beaten to it.

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30456

                            Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                            Wrong book! I see I was beaten to it.
                            Originally posted by rathfarnhamgirl View Post
                            Wasn't that Jane Eyre?
                            No, that was "Reader, I married him". Mine was a mutatis mutandis response, since clearly I didn't marry Mr Rochester, so I couldn't say "Reader, I married him". As Dave2002 was (I thought lightheartedly) implying ignorance of the ending of Pride and Prejudice, I was merely lightheartedly recasting the sentence to settle his doubts, since Elizabeth Bennett does marry Mr Darcy.

                            :irony3:
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • Leinster Lass
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2020
                              • 1099

                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              No, that was "Reader, I married him". Mine was a mutatis mutandis response, since clearly I didn't marry Mr Rochester, so I couldn't say "Reader, I married him". As Dave2002 was (I thought lightheartedly) implying ignorance of the ending of Pride and Prejudice, I was merely lightheartedly recasting the sentence to settle his doubts, since Elizabeth Bennett does marry Mr Darcy.

                              :irony3:
                              Thank you. I've never actually read any Jane Austen - from what I've heard, the plots will be too complicated for me - but it's nice to know how at least one of them ends!

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                              • oddoneout
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2015
                                • 9275

                                Originally posted by rathfarnhamgirl View Post
                                Thank you. I've never actually read any Jane Austen - from what I've heard, the plots will be too complicated for me - but it's nice to know how at least one of them ends!
                                The plots are fairly straightforward and the basic storylines are still much in use in modern fiction - Pride and Prejudice aren't historical problems! - unfavourable first impressions that are forced to change over time, falling head over heels for the wrong man etc. What can cause problems or prove a barrier is a combination of the style of writing(although Jane Austen is not too much disadvantaged to modern readers in that respect in my opinion) and the historical context - not knowing why certain behaviour is unacceptable or the constraints of class and income - a self confessed poor household might still have paid help for instance. Again, those aren't issues unique to the past, it is the particulars that may differ.

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