More statues ?

[MrGongGong]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/20/product-of-theft-greece-urges-uk-to-return-parthenon-marbles

Time to do the right thing ?

[Serial_Apologist]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...thenon-marbles

Time to do the right thing ?

Somehow I don't believe it will happen before I lose my marbles.

[eighthobstruction]

Somehow I don't believe it will happen before I lose my marbles.

[MrGongGong]

And this (again but worth it IMV)

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Long overdue in my opinion.

[burning dog]

I actually think it will happen!

[MrGongGong]

I actually think it will happen!

Does anyone still think the UK (or rather the BM .... or rather the ENGLISH museum) should hold onto the Parthenon Frieze?

[burning dog]

Does anyone still think the UK (or rather the BM .... or rather the ENGLISH museum) should hold onto the Parthenon Frieze?

Some argue more will see it in London, which isn't really the point IMO. There is a great opportunity for a live link to Athens at the British Museum and/or a 3D image (rather than a physical re-creation).

[LHC]

Some argue more will see it in London, which isn't really the point IMO. There is a great opportunity for a live link to Athens at the British Museum and/or a 3D image (rather than a physical re-creation).

There used to be a reasonable argument that the Greeks had nowhere to show them, and that the old Parthenon museum lacked the facilities to look after them properly. However, the new Acropolis museum opened in 2007 is superb, and the floor dedicated to the Parthenon frieze (which currently has a replica of the frieze) would provide a wonderful and purpose built home for the marbles.

There was a suggestion at one time that the Parthenon gallery in the Acropolis museum could be designated as the British museum in Athens to allow the marbles to be returned permanently to Greece (while remaining formally the property of the BM). This struck me as an ideal solution, but was apparently unacceptable to both the BM and the Greek authorities.

[vinteuil]

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... of course,when in 1798 Thomas Bruce, 7th Earl of Elgin and 11th Earl of Kincardine purchased it for £70,000 it was as Ambassador Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of His Britannic Majesty to the Sublime Porte of Selim III, Sultan of Turkey.

Perhaps we could sell it back to Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, President of the successor administration to the Ottomans?








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[Serial_Apologist]

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... of course,when in 1798 Lord Elgin purchased it for £70,000 it was as Ambassador Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of His Britannic Majesty to the Sublime Porte of Selim III, Sultan of Turkey. Perhaps we could sell it back to Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, President of the successor administration to the Ottomans?



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They certainly knew what to call themselves back in those days...

[MrGongGong]

There used to be a reasonable argument that the Greeks had nowhere to show them, and that the old Parthenon museum lacked the facilities to look after them properly. However, the new Acropolis museum opened in 2007 is superb, and the floor dedicated to the Parthenon frieze (which currently has a replica of the frieze) would provide a wonderful and purpose built home for the marbles.

There was a suggestion at one time that the Parthenon gallery in the Acropolis museum could be designated as the British museum in Athens to allow the marbles to be returned permanently to Greece (while remaining formally the property of the BM). This struck me as an ideal solution, but was apparently unacceptable to both the BM and the Greek authorities.

I think that hits the nail on the head
The idea that it's somehow "reasonable" to hang on to things whilst making a judgement about whether the place where they really belong is suitable to look after them "properly".

[LHC]

I think that hits the nail on the head
The idea that it's somehow "reasonable" to hang on to things whilst making a judgement about whether the place where they really belong is suitable to look after them "properly".

Of course, the unspoken concern for the BM is that if they return the Elgin marbles to Greece, they will then be inundated with calls to return all their other treasures to the countries they originally came from.

[MrGongGong]

Of course, the unspoken concern for the BM is that if they return the Elgin marbles to Greece, they will then be inundated with calls to return all their other treasures to the countries they originally came from.

Lots of museums already have and do.
The BM has a terrible record on refusing to engage.

What's the problem ?
Lot's of museums spend time lending things all over the world though for the UK this is about to get much much harder indeed.

[Count Boso]

Apparently the EU's possible interest was mentioned back in February. I missed it at the time

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/elgin-marbles-brexit-trade-deal-greece-parthenon-british-museum-a9343406.html

Doubt it will have the desired effect, though.