The good and evil in us

[eighthobstruction]

On a more trivial note, I've thought about how we've been taught not to make fun of regional accents, yet we laugh at BBC accents from the 1940s. Now is important, but the past can be ridiculed and judged.

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Heh Heh....on a banal trivial note Count, I think there would be a lot of evaluating if you lot actually met me heh heh....

...and Count thank you for the way you throw yourself into threads/ dash around looking for info - I appreciate it....and you are not too self conscious either generally....

[eighthobstruction]

Times do change. Back in the late 60s our scout camp cooking was done with a fire assembled at waist height on four stakes driven into the ground, supporting a square steel plate on which two rows of stones balanced cross bars holding a large dixie pot. Would that be allowed nowadays?

https://s196.photobucket.com/user/lo...tima2.jpg.html....me aged 13-14

[Flay]

https://s196.photobucket.com/user/lo...tima2.jpg.html....me aged 13-14

You haven't changed a bit

Brings back happy(?) memories: the earwig in the shoe episode, the leaking tent, digging the latrine, singing ging gang gooli...

[eighthobstruction]

....Memories of very many wet camps. That particular one was a International Jamboree at Torquay. Tipped it down all week, end up with drainage trenches around every tent....cold, hunger, longing for chocolate....

....just before I started to go bald on my paper-round

[Serial_Apologist]

https://s196.photobucket.com/user/lo...tima2.jpg.html....me aged 13-14

Loitering without tent!

[eighthobstruction]

Loitering without tent!

....and without a woggle....{anyway back OT, before there's apun fest}

[Count Boso]

Recent developments are an invitation for some serious thinking on a range of issues. Colston was* a wicked slave trader, Baden Powel was a racist, homophobe admirer of Hitler, JK Rowling has posted *transphobic messages. Are there any other wrong ideas which should be rooted out, while we're at it? Or shall we (especially those of us who have lived long enough to have transgressed in multiple ways) begin to feel unsafe and fear being secretly reported to those 'authorities' who now regulate public thought, and publicly shamed?

*allegedly

Furthermore; I do not fly, I do not drive a car, I do not eat (much) meat, I do not go to church but will if I should etc etc etc.,

Forgot - I don't smoke.

[Flay]

https://youtu.be/bc80tFJpTuo

One of the best entrances in a musical. I was watching this last weekend!

Where has all the humour gone? Must everything be so serious nowadays?

[oddoneout]

Let us now (ap)praise famous men...
And the fact that the majority of statues of people do seem to be men is possibly also worth considering for those so minded - it is history in its own right.

Apologies this would be better on the statues thread, wasn't concentrating.

[eighthobstruction]

Let us now (ap)praise famous men...
And the fact that the majority of statues of people do seem to be men is possibly also worth considering for those so minded - it is history in its own right.

Titus Salt.....

[Bryn]

Recent developments are an invitation for some serious thinking on a range of issues. Colston was* a wicked slave trader, Baden Powel was a racist, homophobe admirer of Hitler, JK Rowling has posted *transphobic messages. Are there any other wrong ideas which should be rooted out, while we're at it? Or shall we (especially those of us who have lived long enough to have transgressed in multiple ways) begin to feel unsafe and fear being secretly reported to those 'authorities' who now regulate public thought, and publicly shamed?

*allegedly

Furthermore; I do not fly, I do not drive a car, I do not eat (much) meat, I do not go to church but will if I should etc etc etc.,

Forgot - I don't smoke.

The largely bogus case against Baden-Powell reminds me of comments made by some fellow anti-fascist demonstrators as we passed by India House. They were outrages to see swastica relief carvings in the stonework. These were, of course, the traditional Hindu symbol for good luck. Which is also why early scout badges bore the same symbol. Baden-Powell's relation to Hitler is made clear by his damning, with faint praise, of Hitler, following Baden-Powell's reading of Mein Kampf. I too read the tome, back in the early '70s, when rather more active in left-wing politics. Baden-Powell's positive comments regarding some social policies advocated in the book were set against his conclusion that Hitler did not, himself, follow them. His racism was on a par with that of Kipling (not the cake-makers), rather than that of Hitler. He was, it must be said, an early supporter of the ideas of Mussolini, but he later turned away from Il Duce.

[Serial_Apologist]

The largely bogus case against Baden-Powell reminds me of comments made by some fellow anti-fascist demonstrators as we passed by India House. They were outrages to see swastica relief carvings in the stonework. These were, of course, the traditional Hindu symbol for good luck. Which is also why early scout badges bore the same symbol. Baden-Powell's relation to Hitler is made clear by his damning, with faint praise, of Hitler, following Baden-Powell's reading of Mein Kampf. I too read the tome, back in the early '70s, when rather more active in left-wing politics. Baden-Powell's positive comments regarding some social policies advocated in the book were set against his conclusion that Hitler did not, himself, follow them. His racism was on a par with that of Kipling (not the cake-makers), rather than that of Hitler. He was, it must be said, an early supporter of the ideas of Mussolini, but he later turned away from Il Duce.

There was also that rumour about Baden-Powell being a paedophile, though from limited reading this seems not to have been evidenced. BTW there are swastikas above the main entrance to the old Chelmsford town hall, too.