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  • Old Grumpy
    Full Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 3601

    Originally posted by DracoM View Post
    Red 4083 above:
    Checked with local pharmacy - FF correct: once a Pfizer jabee always a Pfizer jabee!
    That, of course, relies on Pfizer being available and not blocked for delivery to the UK by the EU!

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30255

      Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
      I think it's possible, but very unlikely. I believe you were given a card with the details of the jab you had, and this should have been recorded against your medical records. The protocol which is being adopted should match the vaccine you had for jab 1 with that for jab 2. Of course the protocols could change - or there could be errors - but there shouldn't be a change assuming that everything goes to plan. In fairness, the chances of errors should be very low.
      The government response was that it was 'highly unlikely' but the two possibilities were that there was no record of which one you'd had the first time ("couldn't happen", I was told and I was given my mRNA card as everyone else I know has been; and it was independently recorded by them). The other possibility mentioned was that there was none of the original available, but that was dismissed as a possibility too, so I don't know why the government was trying to cover its back. Caution born of ignorance, I dare say.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • Cockney Sparrow
        Full Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 2284

        Cold war type exchange in Dover?

        "Ursula, let's set this up. We need x million 2nd doses of Pfizer. You can have x million Astra Zenica. When that's done.....let's negotiate...send M. Barnier"

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        • LezLee
          Full Member
          • Apr 2019
          • 634

          I had my first jab last week but wasn't given a card so don't know which I had. Suppose I need to find out!

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30255

            Originally posted by LezLee View Post
            I had my first jab last week but wasn't given a card so don't know which I had. Suppose I need to find out!
            Just as well to do that. I was told that they didn't have any AstraZeneca anyway when I went. Did you go to one of the big 'national hubs'?
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • Dave2002
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 18009

              Originally posted by LezLee View Post
              I had my first jab last week but wasn't given a card so don't know which I had. Suppose I need to find out!
              I don't have first hand experience of the cards, but from what I read it was/is the protocol to give people cards with the vaccine details.
              Maybe it's different in Scotland, which would be a slight matter of concern.

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              • DracoM
                Host
                • Mar 2007
                • 12962

                Jabbed, got a card, NO date given for 2nd jab on card, BUT local Medical Centre affirmed they would phone with info as and when.

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                • Dave2002
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 18009

                  Is the UK going to add the J&J vaccine to the mix?

                  Seems it might be quite good - as good or better than the others - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ainst-covid-19
                  Last edited by Dave2002; 29-01-21, 14:17. Reason: oops - spelling

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                  • LHC
                    Full Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1556

                    Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                    Is the UK going to add the J&J vaccome to the mix?

                    Seems it might be quite good - as good or better than the others - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ainst-covid-19
                    Yes, we already have a contract for 30million doses, with the option of ordering 22million more. I think another benefit is that it is a single jab.
                    "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                    Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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                    • LezLee
                      Full Member
                      • Apr 2019
                      • 634

                      Originally posted by french frank View Post
                      Just as well to do that. I was told that they didn't have any AstraZeneca anyway when I went. Did you go to one of the big 'national hubs'?
                      No, I had the district nurse come to my house. She gave me the general booklet but there's no info re the next one, the nurse didn't say, and I forgot to ask. . The 2nd one could be up to 12 weeks.

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30255

                        Originally posted by LezLee View Post
                        No, I had the district nurse come to my house. She gave me the general booklet but there's no info re the next one, the nurse didn't say, and I forgot to ask. . The 2nd one could be up to 12 weeks.
                        They said nothing at all to me about the second, and the card was left blank there. But talking to one of the practice doctors, I asked and she said it would be 12 weeks after and the practice would ring me. The only person I know who was able to 'book' the second jab was my brother who received a letter inviting him to book his dates (both) online. He chose a convenient one for his first and then only had a choice of dates 12 weeks later. I only know one person who has had the second jab, and he was into his 80s and got in just before they changed the 3 week delay to 12 weeks.
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • LHC
                          Full Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1556

                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          They said nothing at all to me about the second, and the card was left blank there. But talking to one of the practice doctors, I asked and she said it would be 12 weeks after and the practice would ring me. The only person I know who was able to 'book' the second jab was my brother who received a letter inviting him to book his dates (both) online. He chose a convenient one for his first and then only had a choice of dates 12 weeks later. I only know one person who has had the second jab, and he was into his 80s and got in just before they changed the 3 week delay to 12 weeks.
                          My partner’s mother, who is 94, was phoned by her GP last week and invited to book her second jab. That’s fine, she said, but I haven’t had the first one yet... Oh, said the GP, you’d better come in then, and we’ll give you your first one.
                          "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                          Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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                          • Serial_Apologist
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37628

                            Originally posted by LHC View Post
                            My partner’s mother, who is 94, was phoned by her GP last week and invited to book her second jab. That’s fine, she said, but I haven’t had the first one yet... Oh, said the GP, you’d better come in then, and we’ll give you your first one.

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                            • ardcarp
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11102

                              Has anyone mentioned the huge 'anti-vaxx' movement in France?

                              It is one of the world's most vaccine-hesitant nations. But this time around, officials have a plan to change people's views


                              Our French friends tell us it is very real...and can't understand why. Quite scary.

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                              • LHC
                                Full Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 1556

                                Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                                Has anyone mentioned the huge 'anti-vaxx' movement in France?

                                It is one of the world's most vaccine-hesitant nations. But this time around, officials have a plan to change people's views


                                Our French friends tell us it is very real...and can't understand why. Quite scary.
                                And won’t be helped by Macron’s extremely irresponsible statements today.
                                "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                                Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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