Coronavirus

[LMcD]

Has the Covid-19 alert level really come down from 4 to 3 or has it (been)politically(massaged to) come down to enable reduction of the social distancing measure?

It depends on whom you believe. I find it best to believe none of them. I'm quite capable of reaching my own conclusions and continuing to behave responsibly in the light of what actually happens as against what we're repeatedly told might/could/should happen.
More people on our local bus today, my wife informs me - 3 plus driver going into town and 4 plus driver coming back.

[Dave2002]

I picked up a prescription today. I still phoned the pharmacy from outside and had the helpful pharmacist put the package in the back of our car. He was wearing a fair degree of protection. I thought my caution would be considered "awkward", but it wasn't. Grateful for that.

[Bryn]

I, too, picked up my repeat prescription items today. I walked to the local Pharmacy, donned a facemask, entered, and socially distanced behind the only other customer until she left. I had to wait a few minutes for the items to be checked. I then had a short conversation about the failure of my GP practice to issue the repeat without my phoning to prompt them and asked how best to avoid such a problem in future. I was recommended to phone the pharmacy 10 days before I ran out. They would then order the repeat. They had no scheduling system for automatic reordering. The pharmacy assistant wore no PPE whatever. Not even a face mask.

[teamsaint]

I, too, picked up my repeat prescription items today. I walked to the local Pharmacy, donned a facemask, entered, and socially distanced behind the only other customer until she left. I had to wait a few minutes for the items to be checked. I then had a short conversation about the failure of my GP practice to issue the repeat without my phoning to prompt them and asked how best to avoid such a problem in future. I was recommended to phone the pharmacy 10 days before I ran out. They would then order the repeat. They had no scheduling system for automatic reordering. The pharmacy assistant wore no PPE whatever. Not even a face mask.

Well, my take on that would be....... in many situations now, with sensible precautions, everyday activities ought not to be risky. But there really isn’t much excuse in a retail environment, especially in a pharmacy, for not wearing a mask. Watsrstones staff are fully visored. Some aspects of how we deal with this this are down to individual behaviour . Accepting that others have different views about behaviour is part of what we are all having to learn.

[MrGongGong]

. Accepting that others have different views about behaviour is part of what we are all having to learn.

And Dominic can do WTF he likes

And who is this arsehole taking no notice of the "advice"?

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[teamsaint]

So thats’s £745 bn for quantitative easing, a few 10’s of billions for furlough and the self employed, and naff all for the arts.

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEPc6tG5qCN_z3Avz77NmuSAqFggEKg4IACoGCAowzdp7ML-3CTCtyxU?hl=en-GB&gl=GB&ceid=GB%3Aen

[MrGongGong]

quantitative easing

Otherwise known as giving lots of money to the rich
Fuckers

[Bryn]

Otherwise known as giving lots of money to the rich
Fuckers

Lots of the general populace's money, which thus also becomes effectively devalued.

[MrGongGong]

Lots of the general populace's money, which thus also becomes effectively devalued.

It is a scam
fraud dressed up

[muzzer]

https://twitter.com/sirsimonrattle/s...283307527?s=21 This may merit its own thread

[MrGongGong]

https://twitter.com/sirsimonrattle/s...283307527?s=21 This may merit its own thread

I think it does

[Count Boso]

Interesting Reality Check by the BBC's Chris Morris on significant measures of coronavirus deaths. They took the 8-week period after the first 5 deaths occurred in each country (UK France Italy):

Excess deaths UK 50,928; Italy 40,820; France 27,522

They then calculated the average number of deaths for the same period over the previous 5 years to get the percentage increase:

UK 54%; Italy 43%; France 29%

The age factor was mentioned as being another significant variable, but of the three the UK has the lowest median age (UK 40.5, I 45.5, F 41.4) so you would have expected (on that figure alone) deaths in the UK to be the lowest, but they were in fact the highest.

Was on news page, now on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0q6bvGuIdI

[Bryn]

Interesting Reality Check by the BBC's Chris Morris on significant measures of coronavirus deaths. They took the 8-week period after the first 5 deaths occurred in each country (UK France Italy):

Excess deaths UK 50,928; Italy 40,820; France 27,522

They then calculated the average number of deaths for the same period over the previous 5 years to get the percentage increase:

UK 54%; Italy 43%; France 29%

The age factor was mentioned as being another significant variable, but of the three the UK has the lowest median age (UK 40.5, I 45.5, F 41.4) so you would have expected (on that figure alone) deaths in the UK to be the lowest, but they were in fact the highest.

Was on news page, now on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0q6bvGuIdI

Sure, but what are the per capita figures? They, surely, are more relevant.

[Dave2002]

Sure, but what are the per capita figures? They, surely, are more relevant.

I agree about per capita, but the populations of these countries are really not too dissimilar, so the broad picture will remain the same.

[LMcD]

Sure, but what are the per capita figures? They, surely, are more relevant.

I think the UK's per capita rate is the 4th highest in the world, after San Marino, Andorra and Belgium.