Coronavirus

[Count Boso]

Wasn't Baroness Dido Harding previously in charge of Talk Talk? That went well, didn't it?

Presumably her husband will urge her to take a particular interest in Weston-super-Mare and its current problems?

[MrGongGong]

Wasn't Baroness Dido Harding previously in charge of Talk Talk? That went well, didn't it?

Great band
Shit phone company who stole the name

and I know this is "childish" but who on earth calls their daughter Dildo Hardon ?

[teamsaint]

Anybody got a view on whether they will download the NHS tracking app ?

I think I probably will, though I’m not really happy about the nature of the app, the people developing it etc. I assume that the government has or has the ability to obtain my data in any case, and that reducing the incidence of the virus is probably the more important issue right now.

[Bryn]

Anybody got a view on whether they will download the NHS tracking app ?

I think I probably will, though I’m not really happy about the nature of the app, the people developing it etc. I assume that the government has or has the ability to obtain my data in any case, and that reducing the incidence of the virus is probably the more important issue right now.

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?21763-What-a-bumbling-perfomance!&p=794582#post794582

[MrGongGong]

Anybody got a view on whether they will download the NHS tracking app ?

I think I probably will, though I’m not really happy about the nature of the app, the people developing it etc. I assume that the government has or has the ability to obtain my data in any case, and that reducing the incidence of the virus is probably the more important issue right now.

It won't work anyway

Some of my more conspiracy-minded friends think it is simply the next phase of the compliance test.... Jim Jones anyone ?

[kernelbogey]

So, where are we then ? I don't have very much confidence left in the UK government's handling of the Covid -19 crisis. And I don't exclude their scientific advisors from this. 60,000 excess deaths in three months is not very good is it ? ....
But with that track record, I am fearful for the next phase. Coming out of lock down too soon ? I hope not but the message is horribly muddled and not helped by the actions of a certain advisor. 'Local lock downs' looks like a disaster waiting to happen.

[LMcD]

So, where are we then ? I don't have very much confidence left in the UK government's handling of the Covid -19 crisis. And I don't exclude their scientific advisors from this. 60,000 excess deaths in three months is not very good is it ? What do we have ? Too slow in imposing lock down. PPE provision, woeful. Test and trace strategy, laughably inadequate. Policy and action regarding care homes, disgraceful. Is there anything on the plus side ? Some marks for effort regarding the furlough scheme perhaps, for all its imperfections. The NHS did not collapse completely under the strain.

But with that track record, I am fearful for the next phase. Coming out of lock down too soon ? I hope not but the message is horribly muddled and not helped by the actions of a certain advisor. 'Local lock downs' looks like a disaster waiting to happen.

Apparently it's perfectly possible that people could be repeatedly asked/told to isolate for 14 days if they're notified, on different occasions, of different contacts.

[Count Boso]

With the help of the data admirably shared on this forum (and elsewhere), I shall make up my mind when I shall go shopping, get within 10 metres of any other human being or touch anything touched by anyone else within the previous 72 hours without washing my hands afterwards. No need to be traced/tracked/told to self-isolate/quarantine/download app.

[LMcD]

With the help of the data admirably shared on this forum (and elsewhere), I shall make up my mind when I shall go shopping, get within 10 metres of any other human being or touch anything touched by anyone else within the previous 72 hours without washing my hands afterwards. No need to be traced/tracked/told to self-isolate/quarantine/download app.

Couldn't agree more. I may not know more than, or as much as, the politicos and experts, but I do trust my own judgement and good sense.

[teamsaint]

And when we want to get back to something more like “ normal”.....concerts, travel, gatherings, whatever ? And those people who need to work outside the home?

Seems to me that if we want those things, we have to go along ( reluctantly probably) with the systems being out in place, imperfect though they are.

[Dave2002]

At least we now have some international news, since the government seems to have shut down any comparisons. The USA has now had more than 100,000 deaths

Sadly my own predictions of 50,000 deaths in the UK do look as though they are going to be realised, or exceeded. This does gradually appear to be acknowledged by official sources.
It’s not rocket science. Just look at the area under the curves in the published graphs.

[Count Boso]

Sadly my own predictions of 50,000 deaths in the UK do look as though they are going to be realised, or exceeded. This does gradually appear to be acknowledged by official sources.

As other European countries begin to ease their restrictions, our rate of decrease seems to be lower than theirs - which is, I assume, where the R number becomes crucial to the rate of easing, the national figure (however calculated) masking the fact that in some areas it can be substantially higher than in others, while the general easing applies everywhere.

A Guardian CIF on this today https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...gh-second-wave

[Dave2002]

A Guardian CIF on this today https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...gh-second-wave

A very good, and helpful article.

[kernelbogey]

...and I know this is "childish" but who on earth calls their daughter Dildo Hardon ?

Perhaps if you think she will become Queen of Cartilage.

[MrGongGong]

Hummmmm

Would you choose someone who refers to the 30th February 2020 as a "medical officer" ?

Asking for a friend

Pants on fire again