Originally posted by MrGongGong
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My own feeling is that we are living in a time like the late 1930s in Germany - a right wing state has been set up, any parliamentary scrutiny has been destroyed and soon any mechanism of expressing an alternative voice other that that of the right-wing press driven social mob will have gone. Remember that 1930s Germany destroyed the myth that ordinary people would not act in certain ways - they did when fed continual misinformation from a harlot press + state run radio.
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I see that PHE have warned this morning that one of the symptoms of coronavirus is loss of smell and advise those who experience it to self-isolate.
However, this has been known about for quite some time. I read it on the BBC News website as long ago as March 28 so am puzzled as to why the advice has changed only now."The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink
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Originally posted by Petrushka View PostI see that PHE have warned this morning that one of the symptoms of coronavirus is loss of smell and advise those who experience it to self-isolate.
However, this has been known about for quite some time. I read it on the BBC News website as long ago as March 28 so am puzzled as to why the advice has changed only now.
I think there's probably a lot in what Francis says in #2433. Those of us who up until recently believed advances in Western mass consciousness brought about by the positive aspects of media globalisation and shrinkage of the "world stage" through travel, education etc., would seem not to have heeded Marcuse's warnings back in the 1960s about "over-determination" - the tendency for capitalism to sustain immaturusation at the oral stage through promoting the short term in tastes in line with the growing unsustainablilty of production and its location. This rings true from the so many un-ignorable examples that have been to hand for so long some of us feel we've been singing to the trees - one alone which is exemplified in the following quote from MrGG's Guardian artlcle link above:
The twist is that organisations that have been most successful - following the neoliberal-perfoumed model, easing themselves away from "dependence" on the state, earning most of their income from bars, venue hire and the lke - are the most vulnerable.
Tory run local authorities have been discovering this for quite a long time now - all too late and too long after Labour councils raised the alarm about cuts from central govt funding and nobody listened.
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Originally posted by Petrushka View PostI see that PHE have warned this morning that one of the symptoms of coronavirus is loss of smell and advise those who experience it to self-isolate.
However, this has been known about for quite some time. I read it on the BBC News website as long ago as March 28 so am puzzled as to why the advice has changed only now.
Some of the new versions are I believe at least partly due to Spector's work with his team at King's College - https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...shows-11978714 - but until this is confirmed by other groups I would suggest that it might even now be speculative.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/coronaviru...171200551.html - but still speculative. Some people who have thought they might have had Covid-19 have sought tests, which came back negative. So which is right - the tests, or the "symptomatic" assessment? We won't know for quite a while i suspect. At present it seems as though many tests are in fact close to useless - so how are good ones to be found which are more consistent?Last edited by Dave2002; 18-05-20, 13:52.
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Originally posted by Pulcinella View PostAnd now, even more chaos and confusion, this time with the NHS tracing app.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ck-coronavirus
Also, remember that over many years, and not just over this kind of issue, UK governments have been pretty bad at getting technology solutions to work, including some very big projects which cost a great deal, but which were nevertheless eventually abandoned.
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Remarkable photo....so resonant of culture & history-now..... can't look at this without tears.... but more of joy than anything else.....of Love in a Cruel Climate...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/c...theo-anderson/.....Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 18-05-20, 14:49.
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Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
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Originally posted by Jazzrook View Post
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Originally posted by oddoneout View PostThe so-called Culture Secretary seems to be fixated on football so little hope of positive government input.
Especially fans of teams in the bottom few positions in their leagues........I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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Originally posted by Jazzrook View Post
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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View PostWe are part of, not apart from nature, as a lot of western religion would seemingly have it - I've been saying this for ages, ("Are you some sort of eco-buddhist?" I was asked at a job interview once) - but it sounds authoritative coming from her.
JR
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