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  • Petrushka
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 12309

    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
    What happens when "Person X" IS the "employer" ?

    Are the norms of employment SO ingrained that everyone is always assumed to have a "superior" ?

    I frequently give myself "permission" to do all sorts of nonsense
    Very true. Hadn't thought of that one. You being self-employed would immediately think of it.
    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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    • Dave2002
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 18036

      More or Less - R4 - today - seems very critical of HMG’s claims re testing for CV-19 capacity, and number of tests actually carried out.

      Tim Harford explains the numbers and statistics used in everyday life


      It also considers the 2 metre rule for social distancing. [Why does that page use the “meter” spelling, rather than “metre”? Is the BBC changing its language standards?]

      PS: Someone at the BBC must be watching - as the spelling has now changed to the usual UK form. Well done!
      Last edited by Dave2002; 13-05-20, 08:56.

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      • Old Grumpy
        Full Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 3643

        Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
        More or Less - R4 - today - seems very critical of HMG’s claims re testing for CV-19 capacity, and number of tests actually carried out.

        Tim Harford explains the numbers and statistics used in everyday life


        It also considers the 2 metre rule for social distancing. [Why does that page use the “meter” spelling, rather than “metre”? Is the BBC changing its language standards?]

        PS: Someone at the BBC must be watching - as the spelling has now changed to the usual UK form. Well done!
        Must be the "special relationship" rather than entente cordiale

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        • LMcD
          Full Member
          • Sep 2017
          • 8647

          Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
          Must be the "special relationship" rather than entente cordiale
          Perhaps the 2-metre rule could be renamed the Spatial Relationship.

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          • eighthobstruction
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 6449

            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
            Perhaps the 2-metre rule could be renamed the Spatial Relationship.
            ....I like to all it the - ffoci ici loci.....

            or even the focorum ici loci vigilate....


            ED: hic et nunc....can it be that withfolk still home and on smedia {such as I}....and folk at work anew that the net is a trifle slow today....
            Last edited by eighthobstruction; 13-05-20, 12:52.
            bong ching

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            • Count Boso

              If you are unclear about the difference between "clinically extremely vulnerable", "clinically vulnerable", "all people over the age of 70 regardless of whether they have underlying conditions", "people under 70 with underlying conditions", "everyone else, mostly" and what they're all supposed to be doing/not doing, Full Fact has been doing some investigation.

              Readers have asked Full Fact to look into the guidance around ‘shielding’ during the Covid-19 pandemic .

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              • Dave2002
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 18036

                Originally posted by Count Boso View Post
                If you are unclear about the difference between "clinically extremely vulnerable", "clinically vulnerable", "all people over the age of 70 regardless of whether they have underlying conditions", "people under 70 with underlying conditions", "everyone else, mostly" and what they're all supposed to be doing/not doing, Full Fact has been doing some investigation.

                https://fullfact.org/health/coronavi...al-distancing/
                So since I belong to the clinically vulnerable group, I should go out, get ill, and then I'd perhaps become eligible for the clinically extremely vulnerable group and shielding! I thnk I'll pass on that.

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                • Serial_Apologist
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37833

                  Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                  Perhaps the 2-metre rule could be renamed the Spatial Relationship.
                  I was amused by a comment on telly from India yesterday. When asked why no one there speaks of "social distancing", only of "physical distancing", he answered that in India they don't "do" social distancing.

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                  • Serial_Apologist
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37833

                    Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                    So since I belong to the clinically vulnerable group, I should go out, get ill, and then I'd perhaps become eligible for the clinically extremely vulnerable group and shielding! I thnk I'll pass on that.
                    I am somewhat surprised not to have received the letter from my local surgery, given that presumably I am in the clincally vulnerable group, having had a stent put in 7 years ago and been on medication since then. I'm wondering if I am therefore to assume I am not. A friend of mine over in Orpington, who has all sorts of acute health conditions, and is on invalidity, only received his letter 3 days ago.

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                    • Dave2002
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 18036

                      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                      I am somewhat surprised not to have received the letter from my local surgery, given that presumably I am in the clinically vulnerable group, having had a stent put in 7 years ago and been on medication since then. I'm wondering if I am therefore to assume I am not. A friend of mine over in Orpington, who has all sorts of acute health conditions, and is on invalidity, only received his letter 3 days ago.
                      Sounds as though you should strictly be in the clinically extremely vulnerable group. "Merely" being over 70 is sufficient to qualify for the clinically vulnerable membership, though enhanced levels are possible for males or if you are also pregnant.

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                      • Dave2002
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 18036

                        International comparisons .... mmmm. Very circumspect answer to question today. Yes - we all now know that the only good comparison long term is ...... " blah blah ...", but it still looks as though the presentations are being adjusted so as to not expose the government. Of course the suggestion is that we now wait 12 months .... to get a clear picture .....

                        Hardly transparency of data, though of course we all can have access to data - if we go looking for it, and know where it is, and how to interpret it ....

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                        • vinteuil
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12938

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                          ... John Crace on wincingly good form -




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                          • LMcD
                            Full Member
                            • Sep 2017
                            • 8647

                            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                            I'm glad that we now appear to have an effective leader of the opposition. I noticed that Boris's immediate reaction to the question about the government's early view regarding care homes was a furtive glance to his right, presumably in the hope that Matt Hancock would rescue him.

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                            • Dave2002
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 18036

                              I would mind less about the playing down of the international comparisons each day in the press conferences if those doing them simply announced that they were only going to do those maybe a couple of times each week. Trying to wriggle out of this and now not showing any international comparisons is not great. Yesterday there was no international comparison graph of any form.

                              Sometime it would actually be helpful to have much more detailed international comparisons, though if not done by the official government channels, maybe the BBC or another news/TV company could do that. There do seem to be some curious anomalies internationally. In the longer term there may be more checks on the different factors based on data from around the world.

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                              • Joseph K
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2017
                                • 7765

                                Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                                I'm glad that we now appear to have an effective leader of the opposition. I noticed that Boris's immediate reaction to the question about the government's early view regarding care homes was a furtive glance to his right, presumably in the hope that Matt Hancock would rescue him.
                                What makes you think Corbyn wasn't an effective leader of the opposition?

                                It has been an extraordinary last few days in politics. A new Tory PM his policies & strategies in apparent chaos, his party split as he sacks 21 of his own MP’s for putting best interests of the country ahead of their ambitions & the ambitions of disaster capitalists. A PM that within days of assuming leadership has lost the trust & support of his own brother. Trapped & unable to call a General Election Johnson is forced by the…

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