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  • teamsaint
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 25200

    Honestly, I’m pretty handy with mental arithmatic( impossible not to be when you are a grocer’s son) but I have lost track of the daily figures, and what they are including , or excluding. But the numbers look terrible.
    I sincerely hope we learn some much needed lessons about our priorities.

    But national leadership is needed, and we have almost none.
    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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    • johnb
      Full Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 2903

      Originally posted by LMcD View Post
      888 more deaths - a rising plateau, or at least a rather bumpy one?
      It is very difficult to see what is happening when looking at a singles day's figures. The daily increases represent reported deaths that have occurred over the previous week or two, though mostly over the previous three days. Administrative delays around the weekends/Easter mean that weekly phasing of the figures is markedly distorted, with dips on Sunday/Monday which are then compensated for on the following days.

      This is a chart I have cobbled together showing the daily reported increases in the number of deaths, with Thursday, Friday and Saturday's figures shown in a different colour as a reference.



      Edit: updated
      Last edited by johnb; 19-04-20, 14:33.

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      • LHC
        Full Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 1556

        Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
        This is (yet) another 'what's the real story'

        The issue of testing isn't quite as simple as many assume, and as the comments highlight, but even so something ain't right here - again.
        I’ve seen some suggestions elsewhere that some of these problems are being caused by the centralized structure of Public Health England, and its reluctance to relinquish any degree of control, even though it is failing to meet its targets for testing. For example, at the beginning of this crisis many University and private labs offered to make their facilities available for testing, but I understand hardly any are being used.
        "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
        Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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        • johnb
          Full Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 2903

          The only useful, consistently reliable data seems to be the number of Covid-19 hospital beds and that shows a peak around the 11th April followed by a gradual day by day decrease - though there are variations across the country. Hopefully we will see that decrease reflected in a reduced daily death count in the coming days/weeks.

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          • eighthobstruction
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 6432

            ....just saw someone on Facebook page say : just for once lets give the NHS and Care Worker a bonus several times their annual wage....and give Bankers and CEO's a nice lovely shiney badge....
            bong ching

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            • johnb
              Full Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 2903

              Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
              ....just saw someone on Facebook page say : just for once lets give the NHS and Care Worker a bonus several times their annual wage....and give Bankers and CEO's a nice lovely shiney badge....


              As John Crace wrote in The Guardian:

              A badge. A sodding badge. Even the writers of the TV series The Thick of It wouldn’t have dared come up with something as crass as this. Especially as it was a badge that had already been launched a year previously to the general indifference of everyone in the care home sector.
              Last edited by johnb; 18-04-20, 18:47.

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              • oddoneout
                Full Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 9152

                Another pithy comment on the badge by one of the G cartoonists, as a detail to another point
                The health secretary, Matt Hancock, addressed socially distanced staff at Birmingham’s Nightingale hospital via a giant video screen

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                • Bella Kemp
                  Full Member
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 459

                  I hate to be cynical, but might it be supposed that when Mr Trump urges everybody back to work and ignore the virus, he has simply calculated that the U.S can easily lose tens of thousands more of their elderly population without damaging the economy? Indeed, his wicked inner circle may have concluded that it would do the country good to rid itself of all those dependent on pensions and no longer working. He seems a truly satanic figure.

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                  • MrGongGong
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 18357

                    Originally posted by johnb View Post


                    As John Crace wrote in The Guardian:



                    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...to-tigger-mode
                    Sadly (IMV) the media and most of the public are far too polite to call these idiots out. They will get away with it and not be held to any account at all.
                    A bit of robust language and refusal to go along with the whole "protocol" and "respect" nonsense when they appear on TV and radio would go down well. Though, as with John Lydon's "disappearance" from the BBC for many years after he spoke out against Jimmy Saville anyone rocking the boat is likely to be "erased" for a long time.

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                    • LMcD
                      Full Member
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 8418

                      Originally posted by Bella Kemp View Post
                      I hate to be cynical, but might it be supposed that when Mr Trump urges everybody back to work and ignore the virus, he has simply calculated that the U.S can easily lose tens of thousands more of their elderly population without damaging the economy? Indeed, his wicked inner circle may have concluded that it would do the country good to rid itself of all those dependent on pensions and no longer working. He seems a truly satanic figure.
                      What makes somebody at BBC News think that we're so interested in Donald Trump's daily waffle-rants that 'we need to go straight to the White House' the minute he appears? It's not as if we're going to take his advice or follow his lead, is it? All I want to do is watch 'The Papers' and then head for bed.

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                      • jayne lee wilson
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 10711

                        Originally posted by johnb View Post


                        As John Crace wrote in The Guardian:



                        https://www.theguardian.com/politics...to-tigger-mode
                        Yes, from the same Crace column, bleakly, cruelly hilarious.......

                        "the producers were withholding the £1m top prize because they suspected cheating had taken place as there had been a lot of background coughing during the recording of the show"

                        and .....

                        Gotta find the humour in all this somewhere, right?

                        ***
                        Anyone else see the latest ​Trump Live! around 2230 on the News channels last night? I've seen too many of these already and knew what to expect; but it still shocked me, as he soared effortlessly on the blackened, ragged wings of self-promotional pettiness to new depths of boast, bluster and accusatory insult...
                        Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 19-04-20, 08:06.

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                        • LMcD
                          Full Member
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 8418

                          I was going to suggest that Captain Tom be promoted, but then I remembered what happened to another Major Tom!
                          I actually switched to Sky News at 2230 last night, but the ratio of advertisements to programme content proved too much.

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                          • Pulcinella
                            Host
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 10900

                            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                            I was going to suggest that Captain Tom be promoted, but then I remembered what happened to another Major Tom!
                            I actually switched to Sky News at 2230 last night, but the ratio of advertisements to programme content proved too much.
                            Stick with things digital/online: that way, you can choose for yourself which articles and items you want to follow (and when!).

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                            • LMcD
                              Full Member
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 8418

                              Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                              Stick with things digital/online: that way, you can choose for yourself which articles and items you want to follow (and when!).
                              Just caught up with 'The Papers' (broadcast at 2330) on iPlayer. Mercifully, Trump didn't get a mention (or should that be a 'shout-out'?)

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                              • jayne lee wilson
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 10711

                                In fact BBC News stuck with Trump last night longer than Sky (who switched to their own Press Preview)...I think the BBC were as stunned as I was.... but I'm not sorry I saw it..... it was some spectacle...

                                Substantial excerpts from it here..... pretty hardcore....

                                At his latest coronavirus press conference, the president attacked Joe Biden and suggested he might have saved the planet


                                And what superhero is waiting, fresh faced and eager, for his chance to overthrow all this?

                                ...Joe Bidennnnnzzzzz

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