Coronavirus

[Serial_Apologist]

That's brilliant.

Sounds very like English jazz to me!

[Dave2002]

Stay cool Dave, stay cool..... ...... enough fear-spreading on social media already, so.....

I'm cool, but forewarned is forearmed, as they say.

I'm not expecting a tiger invasion any day yet.

[Serial_Apologist]

This doesn't look good - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52177586 Tigers now have it, so perhaps cross species transfer is possible. Next thing domestic cats might get it - ugh! Or maybe some animal species already have it - just as with the asymptomatic humans a potentially large population of hazards.

I make a fuss of one of the neighbour's cats - an 11-year old female tabby belonging to a couple who both happen to be NHS hospital doctors - when she asks to come in or joins me sunbathing. When I explained this to them, they seemed confident in my assumption that pets don't transmit.

[jayne lee wilson]

I'm cool, but forewarned is forearmed, as they say.

I'm not expecting a tiger invasion any day yet.

You saw what happened with 5G.... people actually set fire to masts.... so with pet animals....well....airguns are already a real problem...

[LeMartinPecheur]

This doesn't look good - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52177586 Tigers now have it, so perhaps cross species transfer is possible. Next thing domestic cats might get it - ugh! Or maybe some animal species already have it - just as with the asymptomatic humans a potentially large population of hazards.

Saw a report a few days ago that a cat and its owner had both tested positive for the virus. I think it was in Belgium or Holland. The good news was that both were said to be recovering.

[Bryn]

You saw what happened with 5G.... people actually set fire to masts.... so with pet animals....well....airguns are already a real problem...

Probably best you do not Google what they do re feral cats in Australia. Feral cats have effectively wiped out several native species there.

[jayne lee wilson]

Probably best you do not Google what they do re feral cats in Australia. Feral cats have effectively wiped out several native species there.

Probably necessary, sadly. You just hope the science is good.
But Feral Cats - depends where you are... in Istanbul you have Kedi.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgYAuo9UYoE

God knows whats happening to the poor things now... but the citizens would try their best, I'm sure....

[Bryn]

Probably necessary, sadly. But Feral Cats - depends where you are... in Istanbul you have Kedi.......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgYAuo9UYoE

Never mind Istanbul. what about Rome? I recall my amusement, as an early teen, seeing the many feral cats in the Colosseum.

[jayne lee wilson]

Never mind Istanbul. what about Rome? I recall my amusement, as an early teen, seeing the many feral cats in the Colosseum.

Absolutely. All about the Spiritus Loci...

Greece... or this amazing guy....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgFiwMoytM8

[kernelbogey]

At Bronx Zoo, New York City a tiger named Nadia is believed to be the first known case of an animal infected with Covid-19 in the US.

A veternirary surgeon, commenting on the case, stated* laconically that the the animal may not have been able to inhale a large amount of virus from an asymptomatic keeper, since she assumed that the keeper would not have been very close to the animal.

(*Paraphrased, as I can't now find the original report.)

[johnb]

I personally think it is too detailed and complex for most of us to make sense of at this time, and interpreting it will no doubt be a lot easier later on - with hindsight. There is some interesting data in there though - but how many of us are able to consider that. It does seem to show that at the moment the major problem areas are in the London area and SE, but that's the state of affairs now, and that could change in a week or two. Also Scotland is not included in the data.

I agree with you about the full report but I would have thought that the summary by Prof Duncan Young of some of the more significant points is fairly clear (the first link in the earlier post).

(I see that some of the findings of the report were covered in the Daily Mail.)

The results need to be treated with a great deal of caution. As the report says "Due to the relatively low proportion of patients that have completed their critical care, all outcomes should be interpreted with caution"

Of the patients in ICUs who were sampled:

The patients in intensive care were 73% male.
The average age was 60.
Of the people leaving intensive care units - 50% survived.
Of the people coming off ventilator treatment - only a third survived to leave ICU.

From Table 5 in the full report one sees that the biggest determinants of whether patients survived ICU were age and, to much lesser extents, being overweight/obese and having severe co-morbidities - all as expected.

What this does confirm, yet again, is just how nasty and extremely dangerous an illness Covid-19 can be.

Moral of the story - avoid catching it (to state the bleeding obvious).

[oddoneout]

A veternirary surgeon, commenting on the case, stated* laconically that the the animal may not have been able to inhale a large amount of virus from an asymptomatic keeper, since she assumed that the keeper would not have been very close to the animal.

(*Paraphrased, as I can't now find the original report.)

Might have to look at what it's eaten recently? They do get given raw meat after all.

[Bryn]

Things not looking too good for Johnson. I reject most of what he stands for but he is a fellow human being and I would not wish his current ill health on him.

[Anastasius]

Things not looking too good for Johnson. I reject most of what he stands for but he is a fellow human being and I would not wish his current ill health on him.

Sadly, yes. The stats say 50% chance. Fingers crossed.

[oddoneout]

Things not looking too good for Johnson. I reject most of what he stands for but he is a fellow human being and I would not wish his current ill health on him.

Agreed. I also feel for Carrie, who is in a very difficult situation I think - concern for her own health and that of the child she carries, and now fears for the man she loves but cannot be with.