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  • teamsaint
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 25200

    Originally posted by LMcD View Post
    I'm 76 and have type 2 diabetes, which means that I'm obviously a serious threat to society. Fortunately, it also means that I know PRECISELY how much trust to place in 'the authorities'

    I suspect the government has a different, 5-phase solution to the coronavirus isuue:

    (1) Blame the Chinese
    (2) Blame all other foreigners
    (3) Blame the over-70s who show symptoms
    (4) Blame the over-70s who don't show symptoms

    If (1) to (4) don't work:

    (5) Repeat (3) and (4), reducing the age limit 10 years at a time, until only babies in the womb escape blame.

    Does anybody know whether I will be allowed to work in my front garden, parts of which are less than 2 metres from the pavement outside our house?
    You can work in your garden as long as you have a 2 metre gap to the boundary. According to Sarah Jarvis at least. Plus you can’t go for a walk in the woods in your own in case somebody jumps put from behind a tree.

    If I was self isolating, i’d ignore that specific advice.
    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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    • Anastasius
      Full Member
      • Mar 2015
      • 1842

      Originally posted by LMcD View Post
      ....
      Does anybody know whether I will be allowed to work in my front garden, parts of which are less than 2 metres from the pavement outside our house?

      Love it. You've given me the idea of a cracking wheeze. We have a public footpath running through our grounds (unfortunately). i will stand on the path dressed in sackcloth, with a label hanging round my neck saying 'Unclean' and a handbell to ring. Should make 'em take another path.
      Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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      • LMcD
        Full Member
        • Sep 2017
        • 8421

        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
        You can work in your garden as long as you have a 2 metre gap to the boundary. According to Sarah Jarvis at least. Plus you can’t go for a walk in the woods in your own in case somebody jumps put from behind a tree.

        If I was self isolating, i’d ignore that specific advice.
        Hang on - I'll just go and measure the gap ...... Will the distance be reduced to 2 yards when Brexit is sorted?

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        • Bryn
          Banned
          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          Originally posted by LMcD View Post
          . . . Does anybody know whether I will be allowed to work in my front garden, parts of which are less than 2 metres from the pavement outside our house?
          Who is going to take the risk of approaching and manhandling you to make you stop? My gardens are likely to have 2-metre wildlife borders, hopefully with wildlife boarders.

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          • Anastasius
            Full Member
            • Mar 2015
            • 1842

            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
            Lock the whole country down, and vast numbers of the over 70s will be effectively isolated anyway.
            The single biggest risk right now , for all of us, is the NHS being overwhelmed by demand. I would have thought that minimising the risk of infection to precisely those people most likely to require the greatest medical intervention is a pretty sensible step,if not a very nice one to have to take.
            Younger people are being asked , effectively, to go through the disease and keep everything running.

            ( Have elderly mother with underlying health conditions, who lives 30 miles away, and it’ll be down to me to deal with stuff, incidentally).
            Bt whose most at risk ? A 70 year old with no medical conditions and no medication or a 30 year old with hypertension, Type 1 diabetes etc ?
            Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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            • LMcD
              Full Member
              • Sep 2017
              • 8421

              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
              Who is going to take the risk of approaching and manhandling you to make you stop? My gardens are likely to have 2-metre wildlife borders, hopefully with wildlife boarders.
              They're probably developing Rogue Gardener Detection and Arrest Robots even as we speak - well, write (input?).

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              • teamsaint
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 25200

                Originally posted by Anastasius View Post
                Bt whose most at risk ? A 70 year old with no medical conditions and no medication or a 30 year old with hypertension, Type 1 diabetes etc ?
                Well quite. So a bit of thought , and scope for people , (including employers, local communities etc) act sensibly and responsibly is needed.
                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                • Anastasius
                  Full Member
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 1842

                  Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                  Well quite. So a bit of thought , and scope for people , (including employers, local communities etc) act sensibly and responsibly is needed.

                  So you are in agreement with LMcD and I then ?
                  Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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                  • LMcD
                    Full Member
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 8421

                    May I offer a helpful suggestion? The BBC can show a selection of episodes of 'Dad's Army' on a special channel dedicated to those in isolation and then, to prevent them from feeling left out, arrange a referendum in which they will be asked whether they believe Corporal Jones or Corporal Frazer.

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      Find out about the symptoms of COVID-19, what to do if you or your child has them and when to get medical help.


                      Note, nothing there about whether one has Covid-19 or not, though the implied context is that it is advice for those with the virus.

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                      • teamsaint
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 25200

                        Originally posted by Anastasius View Post
                        So you are in agreement with LMcD and I then ?
                        I don’t know, all you have done is asked one question, which I responded to.

                        My earlier post made clear enough what I think about the proposed measure.It may not be the best possible response, but I don’t have the wisdom of Solomon.

                        And just to add a point, avoiding the worst of the potential economic breakdown is very important to all groups in society, though hopefully changed economic priorities can develop from this crisis.
                        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                        • Anastasius
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 1842

                          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                          https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/corona...lation-advice/

                          Note, nothing there about whether one has Covid-19 or not, though the implied context is that it is advice for those with the virus.

                          Love that 'Don't go for a walk'. Well, I might get foot rot from the sheep, I guess.

                          All this Covid stuff had almost made me forget just how utterly dire Vodafone is in every respect.

                          Wasting over two hours of my life this morning trying to buy a PAYG dongle puts Covid-19 into perspective...a minor irritation in life compared to dealing with Vodafone.
                          Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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                          • ahinton
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 16122

                            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                            (5) Repeat (3) and (4), reducing the age limit 10 years at a time, until only babies in the womb escape blame.
                            ...unless their mothers have been diagnosed with it...

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                            • Anastasius
                              Full Member
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 1842

                              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                              I don’t know, all you have done is asked one question, which I responded to.

                              My earlier post made clear enough what I think about the proposed measure.It may not be the best possible response, but I don’t have the wisdom of Solomon.

                              And just to add a point, avoiding the worst of the potential economic breakdown is very important to all groups in society, though hopefully changed economic priorities can develop from this crisis.
                              My point being that it's up the individual and not a diktat from the state. A point eloquently put by LMcD.
                              Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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                              • LMcD
                                Full Member
                                • Sep 2017
                                • 8421

                                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                                https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/corona...lation-advice/

                                Note, nothing there about whether one has Covid-19 or not, though the implied context is that it is advice for those with the virus.
                                The advice includes 'try to stay away from older people' - somewhat vague, I would suggest. Lots of people are older than other people.

                                (I think they're making it up as they go along).

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