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  • ardcarp
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11102

    On the news this morning I think I heard that 'military boats' are going on patrol just offshore of beaches. Are they going to open fire???

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    • MrGongGong
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
      On the news this morning I think I heard that 'military boats' are going on patrol just offshore of beaches. Are they going to open fire???
      I heard that some police were going to inspect our shopping to make sure that it's all "essential"
      luckily I stocked up on anchovies yesterday.. though buying 3 tins might be "hoarding"

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      • jayne lee wilson
        Banned
        • Jul 2011
        • 10711

        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
        I heard that some police were going to inspect our shopping to make sure that it's all "essential"
        luckily I stocked up on anchovies yesterday.. though buying 3 tins might be "hoarding"
        Will they confiscate wine....? Whats the weekly allowance for that?
        Cognac will mark you out as...degenerate...

        "The people are the heroes now....."... but we still need our various opiums.....

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37823

          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          I heard that some police were going to inspect our shopping to make sure that it's all "essential"
          luckily I stocked up on anchovies yesterday.. though buying 3 tins might be "hoarding"
          That really is outstepping their brief - I heard that on Today this morning - surely it's up to shops to determine number of items as being the sole criterion of essential? Next they'll be laying down what constitutes outdoor exercise and what doesn't. Tai-Chi, anyone?

          They won't catch me on my bike!

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          • LHC
            Full Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1561

            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
            I heard that some police were going to inspect our shopping to make sure that it's all "essential"
            luckily I stocked up on anchovies yesterday.. though buying 3 tins might be "hoarding"
            You'll be pleased to hear that everyone's favourite Home Secretary, Priti Patel, has confirmed that the Northamptonshire Police Chief Constable who made these comments has got it wrong, and he has since had to backtrack (she said "this is not the guidance, and that his comments that police would be inspecting people's shopping were not appropriate").

            So your anchovies and wine are safe for the time being.
            "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
            Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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            • LezLee
              Full Member
              • Apr 2019
              • 634

              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
              I heard that some police were going to inspect our shopping to make sure that it's all "essential"
              luckily I stocked up on anchovies yesterday.. though buying 3 tins might be "hoarding"
              Oh dear, I already have 3 tins of anchovies in my cupboard! Hope no-one comes checking.

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              • John Wright
                Full Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 705

                Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                On the news this morning I think I heard that 'military boats' are going on patrol just offshore of beaches. Are they going to open fire???
                Don’t be silly, they’re the only boats available.
                - - -

                John W

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                • MrGongGong
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 18357

                  Originally posted by LHC View Post
                  You'll be pleased to hear that everyone's favourite Home Secretary, Priti Patel, has confirmed that the Northamptonshire Police Chief Constable who made these comments has got it wrong, and he has since had to backtrack (she said "this is not the guidance, and that his comments that police would be inspecting people's shopping were not appropriate").

                  So your anchovies and wine are safe for the time being.
                  You expect me to believe a word she says ?

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                  • MrGongGong
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 18357

                    Originally posted by John Wright View Post
                    Don’t be silly, they’re the only boats available.
                    I love the bit in one of Abdullah Ibrahim's long solo improvisations where he breaks into "shrimp boats are a-coming"
                    if only

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                    • johnb
                      Full Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 2903

                      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                      They won't catch me on my bike!
                      That reminds me of something that happened when I was a teenager.

                      I was cycling up to an extremely quiet junction where there was hardly any traffic and very good visibility all round (very quiet "back" roads). I slowed and checked for traffic but didn't actually stop and put my foot on the ground.

                      I noticed there was a policeman on a bike some 300 yards away or so. Some time later an out of breath policeman caught up with me and booked me for not stopping at a stop sign.

                      A few months later I attended the hearing at Strangeways (Manchester) and was fined 15 bob.

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                      • Bryn
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        Originally posted by LezLee View Post
                        Oh dear, I already have 3 tins of anchovies in my cupboard! Hope no-one comes checking.
                        Fear not, the Tesco ruling is up to three.

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                        • Dave2002
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 18035

                          Originally posted by Boilk
                          Flawed approach; that "critical number" to invoke full-blown reponse will vary from person to person owing to wildly different levels of robustness between people's immune systems. And then younger people tend to have more nimble metabolisms, and so benefit from a more rapid response to becoming infected.
                          The question was meant in all seriousness. If the critical number is 1, then that would imply that just picking up a single viral fragment would be bad news, but if there is a degree of tolerance, then keeping contacts low, and avoiding people who have a high viral loading, would be reasonable - and imply that it might be possible to relax the lockdown rules and permit a little more social contact. It might also permit a slightly more flexible approach for medical workers - for example asking them to stay away for periods to keep fit and not let their immune systems get hammered.

                          If there is no such tolerance, then absolute care would be needed at all times.

                          As you say though, if there is a critical threshold number greater than 1, it may well vary significantly from person to person.

                          I think this is still unknown territory.

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                          • oddoneout
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 9282

                            Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                            The question was meant in all seriousness. If the critical number is 1, then that would imply that just picking up a single viral fragment would be bad news, but if there is a degree of tolerance, then keeping contacts low, and avoiding people who have a high viral loading, would be reasonable - and imply that it might be possible to relax the lockdown rules and permit a little more social contact. It might also permit a slightly more flexible approach for medical workers - for example asking them to stay away for periods to keep fit and not let their immune systems get hammered.

                            If there is no such tolerance, then absolute care would be needed at all times.

                            As you say though, if there is a critical threshold number greater than 1, it may well vary significantly from person to person.

                            I think this is still unknown territory.
                            Even if credible scientific advice suggested this was a possibility I think it would be foolhardy given the current inconsistent compliance. If people still think it's OK to have gatherings/go visiting under the current system better to leave things as they are?

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                            • LeMartinPecheur
                              Full Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4717

                              Originally posted by John Wright View Post
                              Don’t be silly, they’re the only boats available.
                              'Military boats' sounds like the army. Have I missed something and they've taken over the Royal Navy? Next I suppose, they'll be resuming their control of the Royal Flying Corps (as was)

                              (Sorry if this breaches whimsicality rules on this thread.)
                              I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                              • Bryn
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 24688

                                Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                                'Military boats' sounds like the army. Have I missed something and they've taken over the Royal Navy? Next I suppose, they'll be resuming their control of the Royal Flying Corps (as was)
                                Both the Royal Navy (as against the Merchant Navy) and the Royal Air Force are military organisations, as is the Army.

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