Coronavirus

[cloughie]

Strangely enough, last night we watched an episode of 'Seinfeld' in which a character dies after licking what turned out to be toxic adhesive on cheap envelopes containing wedding invitations. I'm not sure whether she did all 200 before collapsing and being rushed to hospital.

It’s not real!

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Please - if another poster makes you angry, please do not retaliate by attacking verbally.

Disagree, by all means, but without using insults to the other poster, or bad language (and the use of asterisks to avoid using certain words may not be acceptable either).

It would be a pity if the thread had to be closed because of a few people forumists losing their tempers.

[Jazzrook]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/30/coronavirus-crisis-austerity-politics-boris-johnson

JR

[Dave2002]

It’s not real!

There was a "Death in Paradise" episode with a similar theme.

[Dave2002]

The important context is that a total of one item on that list could likely blast its way from the bottom to the top in a matter of weeks if no action were taken/was already being taken.

For further important context the starkest numbers from the same source that have been omitted from that list are:

34,504,804 Births (so far) this year
14,485,989 Deaths (so far) this year
20,019,146 Net population growth (so far) this year

Seemingly, nobody much ever talks about this. Trying to reduce humanity's toll on the environment in the face of it is largely like stacking water.

If CV-19 does turn out to be as bad as, or worse than, the 1918 pandemic, 50M excess deaths would merely be a brief burst of nature successfully retaliating via viral evolution before the onslaught resumes.

I like the "stacking water" phrase.

Population growth is a big problem, which people don't seem to want to talk about, or moderate.

However, from where I am now - already in existence - I don't particularly want to add to the statistic at the top of the list. I can blame my parents for getting me here, but that's been and done now. I have forgiven them for that.

[Zucchini]

It would be a pity if the thread had to be closed because of a few people forumists losing their tempers.

it would be better hidden wherever you put political stuff. It no longer has anything to do with R3 or music and at the moment there are around 150 guest viewers who must surely feel the inhabitants are a bit odd.

[Bryn]

it would be better hidden wherever you put political stuff. It no longer has anything to do with R3 or music and at the moment there are around 150 guest viewers who must surely feel the inhabitants are a bit odd.

This is "The New Radio 3 Forum". Radio 3 broadcasts news relating to the current Coronavirus emergency. Nothing strange about discussing it here.

[oddoneout]

it would be better hidden wherever you put political stuff. It no longer has anything to do with R3 or music and at the moment there are around 150 guest viewers who must surely feel the inhabitants are a bit odd.

A major reason I appreciate and use this forum is that it not only has the core R3/music material but also other topics. I learn from it all.

[Simon B]

However, from where I am now - already in existence - I don't particularly want to add to the statistic at the top of the list. I can blame my parents for getting me here, but that's been and done now. I have forgiven them for that.

Indeed, likewise and presumably ditto for the vast majority.

Now probably isn't the opportune time for its contemplation (rather like everything else on the list bar the urgent one we can actually influence anytime soon) but the broad evidence suggests to the lay reader that relentless population growth is the underlying cause of the recent upsurge in significant zoonotic diseases. With continued untrammelled population growth they are only going to get more prevalent. Not a pleasant prospect.

[LMcD]

393 more deaths (gulp)

[LHC]

393 more deaths (gulp)

I think this total includes deaths outside hospitals (care homes etc.), which haven’t been included before, and was expected to be much larger as there was a backlog to be included. Tomorrow’s figures may give a better idea where we are. In any case, because of the time lag between infections and fatalities, these figures won’t really show the effect of the lock down for at least another week or two, and they will continue to rise for that time. Hopefully, the rate of increase will start to slow after another week and before we reach the daily totals experienced in Italy.

[Bryn]

Indeed, likewise and presumably ditto for the vast majority.

Now probably isn't the opportune time for its contemplation (rather like everythinaiag else on the list bar the urgent one we can actually influence anytime soon) but the broad evidence suggests to the lay reader that relentless population growth is the underlying cause of the recent upsurge significant the zoonotic diseases. With continued untrammelled population growth they are only going to get more prevalent. Not a pleasant prospect.

Gaia attempting some corrective action?

[Pulcinella]

The ONS take on the increase:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/31/england-and-wales-coronavirus-death-toll-40-higher-than-previously-stated

[LMcD]

I think this total includes deaths outside hospitals (care homes etc.), which haven’t been included before, and was expected to be much larger as there was a backlog to be included. Tomorrow’s figures may give a better idea where we are. In any case, because of the time lag between infections and fatalities, these figures won’t really show the effect of the lock down for at least another week or two, and they will continue to rise for that time. Hopefully, the rate of increase will start to slow after another week and before we reach the daily totals experienced in Italy.

It's still a scary figure!

[cloughie]

Please - if another poster makes you angry, please do not retaliate by attacking verbally.

Disagree, by all means, but without using insults to the other poster, or bad language (and the use of asterisks to avoid using certain words may not be acceptable either).

It would be a pity if the thread had to be closed because of a few people forumists losing their tempers.

I hope it was coincidence that you posted this after my post #1168 unless you saw something that caused offence in that reply, Alps!