Coronavirus

[cloughie]

Not only Dyson, but other manufacturers may have produced devices which increase the spread of diseases, such as hand dryers. I don't know whether there is a lot of solid evidence that the high speed hand dryers do spread viruses further, and faster, but it seems plausible to me. https://health.clevelandclinic.org/t...t-hand-dryers/

https://www.sciencealert.com/bathroo...pread-bacteria There is obviously a difference between spreading viruses and bacteria, and some bacteria may not be that dangerous.

However, it would be good to know that Dyson's hand dryers haven't actually made a bad situation worse, or will do so now that the CV virus is spreading faster round the UK.

Yes I’ve often wondered about the water that accumulates in the bottom of those ‘flesh creepers’, an maybe ‘towel dust’ is less of a disease carrier!

[ardcarp]

Baa humbug?

That deserves a round of applause.

[Serial_Apologist]

Good turnout of neighbours here, though only applauded for a minute or so.

A minute was about all I could manage - my hands being so chapped following repeated washings, with the skin braking open at the knuckles, that I shall have to put at least half a dozen plasters on tomorrow! But it was a pretty good turnout, with especially enthusiastic contributions from the Spanish family in Flat 2.

[Dave2002]

Not disagreeing with you on anything. Just trying to make sense of it as one whose method of trying to understand the world tends to work this way.

Thanks for this. I still need to check that 14% figure - whether it only applies to the high risk group who actually become infected. I still haven't read that article so I don't know.

One problem with making models to match the data is that they may not generalise well. In some applications that approach can be really good for interpolation, finding "values" for points in between data samples - (and of course in audio work and DSP interpolation is used a lot), but where one is extrapolating and using the approach for prediction this may not work at all well, particularly if there is a change of strategy or policies which affect the input data points - which is obviously what will be happening here, as changes are made in the hope of reducing the worst effects of the pandemic.

A cluster analysis approach might give better results, but that's not guaranteed. With most AI type models there is no silver bullet - no "best" model which works in all cases. Sometimes one only finds out which one was best after the event - which is pretty useless for practical situations. Modelling can throw up ideas, and sometimes people can gain insight by looking at them - but other times not!

Hindsight is a wonderful analysis tool!

[MrGongGong]

Yes, and with a song! and we could hear the ripples of applause around the village.

Stage 1 is simple... go outside a clap your hands

Stage 2 is to STOP VOTING FOR the people who are intent on privitising the NHS and stripping it of resources

[MrGongGong]

Not only Dyson, but other manufacturers may have produced devices which increase the spread of diseases, such as hand dryers. I don't know whether there is a lot of solid evidence that the high speed hand dryers do spread viruses further, and faster, but it seems plausible to me. https://health.clevelandclinic.org/t...t-hand-dryers/

https://www.sciencealert.com/bathroo...pread-bacteria There is obviously a difference between spreading viruses and bacteria, and some bacteria may not be that dangerous.

However, it would be good to know that Dyson's hand dryers haven't actually made a bad situation worse, or will do so now that the CV virus is spreading faster round the UK.

John Drever is your man on all things drier related

https://research.gold.ac.uk/7833/1/Drever_slides_from_COST_June_2012-update.pdf

[teamsaint]

Very interesting and substantial article on the rush to create a vaccine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/inside-the-race-to-develop-a-coronavirus-vaccine-covid-19

[oddoneout]

Stage 1 is simple... go outside a clap your hands

Stage 2 is to STOP VOTING FOR the people who are intent on privitising the NHS and stripping it of resources

Stage 2 presupposes a system where the votes cast are reflected in the resultant administration. For far too many of us our non-Con vote doesn't even make ripples in the deep blue ocean we live in - doubly frustrating.

[MrGongGong]

Stage 2 presupposes a system where the votes cast are reflected in the resultant administration. For far too many of us our non-Con vote doesn't even make ripples in the deep blue ocean we live in - doubly frustrating.

Indeed

It only applies to those who have votes that are worth something
Mine, like yours, is worth f*ck all

[Count Boso]

It only applies to those who have votes that are worth something
Mine, like yours, is worth f*ck all

The ERS have published their report on the GE - the votes of 45.3% of all voters failed to elect a candidate. That doesn't reflect the real advantage to the Tories either, since the SNP were also over represented. So probably nearer 50% of votes that were cast for Labour, Lib Dems and Greens were worthless.

[Stanfordian]

Yesterday, it seems a group of 15 twitchers were warned and sent home by police for gathering to see a ring ouzel in Cheltenham. The RSPCA said the gathering was "totally unacceptable."

Today once again I've seen several groups of cyclists and also motor bikers ignoring the social distancing measures to be taken to reduce social interaction.

[Padraig]

I went out to clap, but the street was deserted.

The stage was yours, E A. I hope you took the golden opportunity for a solo performance! A pity about the audience, but 'L'art pour l'art'.

[Dave2002]

Very interesting and substantial article on the rush to create a vaccine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ccine-covid-19

Actually a rather good article - better than many at the moment.

[MrGongGong]

This list might be useful for some folks
(not that I have any opinion about the source etc )

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/business-economics/these-are-the-firms-people-are-pledging-to-boycott-after-coronavirus/25/03/?fbclid=IwAR17AGyZfF_Rh6qN5HaSi4Hmjp81vU7o1AVvgSVsnJXZoS6XLX6Fr7hgG24

[Anastasius]

That deserves a round of applause.

Ewe never know.

coat...get