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  • Cockney Sparrow
    Full Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 2291

    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
    None of that excuses the very poor safety net that we have for the SE, and which is why I support , and have done for some time, Universal Basic Income, which would be a godsend for freelancers of all kinds.
    I agree with you TS. And Anastasius was interested in your post on the virus modelling. But I have a busy day, and can't post any further comments until this evening. But thank you both.
    Last edited by Cockney Sparrow; 21-03-20, 12:01.

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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      In this current global human health emergency, Iran has been particularly hard hit. Whatever one thinks of the ruling group there, the people of Iran deserve al the help we can offer. Time to suspend the sanctions:

      As of today, 2,336 cases have now been confirmed in Iran and Iran has a high ratio of deaths to infections – now about 3.3%. Sanctions against Iran should be lifted immediately to help its populace and prevent the global spread of infection.

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      • DracoM
        Host
        • Mar 2007
        • 12989

        How about this for a Catch-22 lookalike?

        [a] I am in the 'vulnerable age group'.
        [b] I self-isolate.
        [c] I live in a VERY rural area in the fells of NW England.
        so............
        [d] As usual, I regularly order online grocery deliveries anyway...........I do not panic buy.
        [e] So yesterday I set up my usual monthly order.
        BUT, despite all above......vulnerable, trying to self-isolate etc etc.........
        [f] not a single delivery slot is available..until mid-late APRIL, so I cannot get supermarket deliveries. .
        The kind store offers:
        EITHER 'click and collect' / involving catching a bus [therefore mixing]. The local bus does not operate here after 12 noon seven days a week....
        OR presumably walk fifteen miles over the tops six times a week and then back over the fells to carry from a store where I will of necessity mix and mix and mix
        ..............BUT, aha!
        [g] click and collect means I would have to meet others helping me with goods at the pick up point.........
        [h BUT.............I am a NON-driver,

        QED. Hurrah [-not] for online delivery to help keep a person in self-isolation

        Snookered.
        Last edited by DracoM; 21-03-20, 12:36.

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        • eighthobstruction
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 6449

          ....ooooer Draco....quandry....


          ....just went to the chemist where i had the assistant extravagantly cough all over my purchases....

          ....I'm sure you have possibly done this already, but....go on line to local volunteer groups....possibly even local Facebook for likely options....there will be someone near who will help....
          bong ching

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          • oddoneout
            Full Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 9282

            Farmshops, independent shops, pubs and churches are beginning to organise ways of getting supplies to those in need of help, and offer help collecting and delivering things, so as 8thobs says, time to hit the internet/FB to see what might be available in your neck of the woods. Do you have any friends in the area who could pick up a click and collect order for you, or try and get extra items when they do their own shop?
            Hope you can find a solution, even if only partial.

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            • eighthobstruction
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 6449

              Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
              Farmshops, independent shops, pubs and churches are beginning to organise ways of getting supplies to those in need of help, and offer help collecting and delivering things, so as 8thobs says, time to hit the internet/FB to see what might be available in your neck of the woods. Do you have any friends in the area who could pick up a click and collect order for you, or try and get extra items when they do their own shop?
              Hope you can find a solution, even if only partial.
              ....perehaps get involved with local vicar....
              bong ching

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              • Pulcinella
                Host
                • Feb 2014
                • 11067

                Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                ....perehaps get involved with local vicar....
                Here, local taxi firms are offering to provide a delivery service for click and collect orders.



                Might be a bit safer than risking parish gossip.

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                • cloughie
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22183

                  Originally posted by gradus View Post
                  I am told that there is something of an exodus from London of second home owners re-locating to their cottages etc and that country estate agents are busy dealing with rental enquiries from the same source. Inevitable I suppose but not always welcomed by locals if as happened to my daughter at work yesterday when a man with child in tow came into the shop and announced that he had moved to Cornwall from Oxford because 2 of his friends had CV19.
                  I do not wish to sound uncharitable or selfish, but the NHS in Cornwall was stretched beyond its limits even before CV19. We do not want this extra burden on our resources and facilities or the extra source of infection. Please stay put!

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                  • Anastasius
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 1860

                    [QUOTE=DracoM;783908]Draco...I've sent you a PM....
                    Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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                    • DracoM
                      Host
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 12989

                      Thx

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                      • LeMartinPecheur
                        Full Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4717

                        Is anyone else struggling with the vagueness of gov't advice re travelling and tourist attractions within the UK? Two particular scenarios:

                        1) Mrs LMP, a close (geographically as well as personally) friend and I have a holiday cottage booked some 70 miles away in Devon starting in a week. We accept that most tourist attractions will be closed but are happy to go for the change of scenery, walks etc. We can if necessary take all our food with us so as not to mix in local shops. Should we, can we, still go? We really can't see any good reason why not as we'd be behaving in exactly the same responsible way in Devon as we would in Cornwall. There is no clear advice yet from the booking company.

                        2) Local friends own a tourist attraction, one where there need be no close association between visitors. Should they close? The immediate decision isn't helped by the fact that the friends are currently in Japan for a family wedding and the attraction is being run by friends and family. They would probably have insurance coverage if HMG ordered them to close by law but is there any prospect of this? i suspect that current wishy-washy advice may be to ward off such claims, at the behest of the insurance industry.

                        All comments gratefully rec'd.
                        I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                        • Dave2002
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 18035

                          Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                          ....just went to the chemist where i had the assistant extravagantly cough all over my purchases....
                          Did she charge for the service, or was she merely profuse? Would it have been better if she'd coughed all over your purchases slightly less vigorously?

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                          • Serial_Apologist
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37823

                            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                            Local boy, KB ............
                            He featured in the penultimate episode of The Middle Classes: Their Rise and Sprawl - a fantastic BBC4 documentary of 23 years ago narrated by Geoffrey Palmer ("As Times Go By") which luckily I taped - the episode which dealt in particular with the huge attraction of public school education to Asian parents - especially those chucked out of Uganda who had been lynchpins of banking and the civil service - by the Amin regime, and even those of relatively limited means such as his, owners of a corner shop pharmacy in Southampton. I well remember the 16-year old Sunak - who looked exactly the same back then - enthusing about his education at Winchester College, claiming that it was far from the social exclusivity alleged by critics, and speaking of making contacts at Eton, Harrow and so on... Well, along those lines, anyway.

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                            • Dave2002
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 18035

                              Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                              How about this for a Catch-22 lookalike?

                              [a] I am in the 'vulnerable age group'.
                              ....

                              [h BUT.............I am a NON-driver,

                              QED. Hurrah [-not] for online delivery to help keep a person in self-isolation

                              Snookered.
                              Does the postal service operate? If so, for how long?

                              I expect that there would be a way to get stuff to you.

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                              • eighthobstruction
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 6449

                                Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                                Is anyone else struggling with the vagueness of gov't advice re travelling and tourist attractions within the UK? Two particular scenarios:

                                1) Mrs LMP, a close (geographically as well as personally) friend and I have a holiday cottage booked some 70 miles away in Devon starting in a week. We accept that most tourist attractions will be closed but are happy to go for the change of scenery, walks etc. We can if necessary take all our food with us so as not to mix in local shops. Should we, can we, still go? We really can't see any good reason why not as we'd be behaving in exactly the same responsible way in Devon as we would in Cornwall. There is no clear advice yet from the booking company.

                                2) Local friends own a tourist attraction, one where there need be no close association between visitors. Should they close? The immediate decision isn't helped by the fact that the friends are currently in Japan for a family wedding and the attraction is being run by friends and family. They would probably have insurance coverage if HMG ordered them to close by law but is there any prospect of this? i suspect that current wishy-washy advice may be to ward off such claims, at the behest of the insurance industry.

                                All comments gratefully rec'd.
                                1) see no reason not to go....

                                2) On Pm R4 last night.....10 minutes about this using a Kennels as an example....insurance Co renneging on policies....
                                bong ching

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