Coronavirus

[Dave2002]

Trouble is that large swathes of the 'population at large' are too thick or stupid to understand the reality of Covid and the impact that it's having on everyone else. Their attitude is 'self..self..self'. Think the Govt is missing a trick. Shouldn't the script writers of all those ghastly TV soaps be having characters dying in droves ? Being too ill to pick up a pint of beer? All the sort of things that might actually get through the thick skulls out there and make them wake up ?

Then there's the Archers. Shouldn't an opportunity be taken to kill off all the residents of Ambridge. Probably not - as assuming they mostly live in a rural area, they are perhaps less likely to have a problem.

[cloughie]

Then there's the Archers. Shouldn't an opportunity be taken to kill off all the residents of Ambridge. Probably not - as assuming they mostly live in a rural area, they are perhaps less likely to have a problem.

Is there a proper restart date yet - I have listened to the Everyday Story of Countryfolk for 65 or more years until the cut off of new episodes in Spring - of all programmes which could have been recorded by zoom or similar surely the Archers was relatively easy - but where there’s no will ....

[teamsaint]

Trouble is that large swathes of the 'population at large' are too thick or stupid to understand the reality of Covid and the impact that it's having on everyone else. Their attitude is 'self..self..self'. Think the Govt is missing a trick. Shouldn't the script writers of all those ghastly TV soaps be having characters dying in droves ? Being too ill to pick up a pint of beer? All the sort of things that might actually get through the thick skulls out there and make them wake up ?

The “self self self” attitude is certainly rife. Especially among those who want us locked down and controlled until the impossible happens.
There is a lot more happening out there than just covid. Collateral damage from the lockdowns just as one example.

[Bryn]

https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-10-28/a-room-a-bar-and-a-class-how-the-coronavirus-is-spread-through-the-air.html

[french frank]

https://english.elpais.com/society/2...h-the-air.html

Thanks, Bryn - a good résumé. I read recently another article (where?) which stressed the importances of aerosols rather than droplets. Some while ago 'they' were saying it was the 3 Vs: venue, ventilation, voice. To that could be added time.

[Serial_Apologist]

Thanks, Bryn - a good résumé. I read recently another article (where?) which stressed the importances of aerosols rather than droplets. Some while ago 'they' were saying it was the 3 Vs: venue, ventilation, voice. To that could be added time.

Early on during the pandemic, we were also being told that, the heavier the dose of virus, the more severe symptoms possibly suffered by the recipient, although we haven't been hearing as much of that of late.

[Bryn]

Early on during the pandemic, we were also being told that, the heavier the dose of virus, the more severe symptoms possibly suffered by the recipient, although we haven't been hearing as much of that of late.

September 15th too far back for you?

https://www.cell.com/cancer-cell/fulltext/S1535-6108(20)30481-5

[teamsaint]

Some interesting figures in here, quoted on BBC News whose health correspondent Nick Triggle is one of the few with what appears to be an enquiring mind.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/monthlymortalityanalysisenglandandwales/september2020

In particular section 6, which shows that Year to date this is the worst year for age - standardised mortality since 2009.

I don’t remember the health issues of the day in 2009, as it goes.

[Anastasius]

The “self self self” attitude is certainly rife. Especially among those who want us locked down and controlled until the impossible happens.
There is a lot more happening out there than just covid. Collateral damage from the lockdowns just as one example.

Yawn.

[teamsaint]

Yawn.

You STILL trolling me ?

The alternative is to actually discuss things. But you never want to do that.

Just the usual petty, personal attacks.

[Frances_iom]

R4 quoting tomorrow's Times suggests a National lockdown on cards for next week

[Bryn]

R4 quoting tomorrow's Times suggests a National lockdown on cards for next week

It's to be in the Mail, too. Ian Pace posted regarding it on FB, earlier.

[Bryn]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000p0yl/the-papers-30102020

The 23:30 version should be available via the iPlayer soon.

[Bryn]

Lockdown predicted to be announced tomorrow and start Wednesday. (Just now on BBC News channel.)

[Dave2002]

This article seems reasonable, and tries to explain the dynamics of aerosol transmission - https://english.elpais.com/society/2...h-the-air.html

Major factors seem to be:

* Shouting or exercising
* No or poor ventilation
* Length of exposure time

While aerosol transmission may be only one form of transmission, in indoor settings it does appear to be significant.
Mask wearing is not a guarantee that transmission and infection won’t occur, but does reduce the risk.