Coronavirus

[Serial_Apologist]

You're not concerned they might have an agenda?

Nobody - not one single person, animal or plant - has an agenda. Of any kind. Period.

[Bryn]

Nobody - not one single person, animal or plant - has an agenda. Of any kind. Period.

I still have and AgendA but it has not worked for years.

[Jazzrook]

These RT interviews are a godsend in these mass media times.

I don't agree with everything on RT but find that many of the interviews on 'Going Underground' give refreshing alternative views rarely heard in the mainstream media.

JR

[french frank]

I don't agree with everything on RT but find that many of the interviews on 'Going Underground' give refreshing alternative views rarely heard in the mainstream media.

JR

I'd agree that it makes a change from the unremitting junk from the daily rags over here, though I prefer the anti-Trump American stuff - Washington Post, NewYork Times, Atlantic, CNN. Even Fox News has its renegades which is quite amusing.

Does RT have a line on Navalny (Moscow Times quotes doctor saying it could have been a lack of breakfast)? Or how they've managed to keep Covid deaths as low as they have? To get back on topic.

[johnb]

.... oh, and the hospital admissions have started to increase.

Incidentally, in the 7 days to 5th September people aged 65+ accounted for 7% of new cases but 53% of hospital admissions in England.

[Frances_iom]

.... oh, and the hospital admissions have started to increase.

Incidentally, in the 7 days to 5th September people aged 65+ accounted for 7% of new cases but 53% of hospital admissions in England.

I've been following the New Zealand Gov media release page as interested in the Auckland community cases the origin of which still seems unclear but gained significant traction in the city with a number of hospital + ICU admissions and even now some weeks later 4 or 5 new cases are found each day - quite a number were spread via an evangelical church - maybe too vigorous worship?

[Old Grumpy]

I've been following the New Zealand Gov media release page as interested in the Auckland community cases the origin of which still seems unclear but gained significant traction in the city with a number of hospital + ICU admissions and even now some weeks later 4 or 5 new cases are found each day - quite a number were spread via an evangelical church - maybe too vigorous worship?

Or a Gospelvirus epidemic

[oddoneout]

Or a Gospelvirus epidemic

Wrong sort of divine intervention?

[LHC]

I've been following the New Zealand Gov media release page as interested in the Auckland community cases the origin of which still seems unclear but gained significant traction in the city with a number of hospital + ICU admissions and even now some weeks later 4 or 5 new cases are found each day - quite a number were spread via an evangelical church - maybe too vigorous worship?

Reuters published an article in March looking at the role of a single super-spreader and church attendance in the spread of CV19 in South Korea. At the time of publication, the Shincheonji Church cluster accounted for more than 4,000 cases and about 60% of all cases in South Korea.

The diagrams give a graphic illustration of how a single reckless person can spread the infection.

https://graphics.reuters.com/CHINA-HEALTH-SOUTHKOREA-CLUSTERS/0100B5G33SB/index.html

[Bryn]

Re the current pause in Phase 3 of the Oxford trials, does anyone here have information about an autoimmune disease response in the volunteer concerned? I found mention of such in a Facebook post but have not been able to find official confirmation, so far.

[LHC]

Re the current pause in Phase 3 of the Oxford trials, does anyone here have information about an autoimmune disease response in the volunteer concerned? I found mention of such in a Facebook post but have not been able to find official confirmation, so far.

I saw a suggestion on another forum that the pause is a result of transverse myelitis:

Transverse myelitis is a rare clinical syndrome in which an immune-mediated process causes neural injury to the spinal cord. The pathogenesis of transverse myelitis is mostly of an autoimmune nature, triggered by various environmental factors, including vaccination

I haven’t seen any other evidence to confirm this.

[Bryn]

I saw a suggestion on another forum that the pause is a result of transverse myelitis:

Transverse myelitis is a rare clinical syndrome in which an immune-mediated process causes neural injury to the spinal cord. The pathogenesis of transverse myelitis is mostly of an autoimmune nature, triggered by various environmental factors, including vaccination

I haven’t seen any other evidence to confirm this.

Thanks for that.

[johnb]

I was playing around with an old version of MapPoint (which I once upon a time used for business), importing today's data for local authorities in England with cases/100k above 20 in w/e 6th Sept in order to get the geographic distribution and came up with this.

It's a bit clunky but I thought I'd post it here anyway.



Although there are the expected high rates in the North Eest, Midlands and North East there is a much wider spread of local authorities with case rates between 20 and 30, especially clustered around London.

(Some of the data points represent entire counties.)

[Dave2002]

I was playing around with an old version of MapPoint (which I once upon a time used for business), importing today's data for local authorities in England with cases/100k above 20 in w/e 6th Sept in order to get the geographic distribution and came up with this.

It's a bit clunky but I thought I'd post it here anyway.


Although there are the expected high rates in the North Eest, Midlands and North East there is a much wider spread of local authorities with case rates between 20 and 30, especially clustered around London.

(Some of the data points represent entire counties.)

Thanks for this. Is it possible to do similar maps for Scotland and Northern Ireland, or is the data required not easily obtainable?

[Dave2002]

This article, about a Nobel Prize winning pioneer discoverer of anti-viral drugs, Gertrude Elion, might give a little more insight. It might help us to understand how anti-virals might be a part of a management programme for coronavirus.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/08/gertrude-elion-antivirals-coronavirus-remdesivir/

Well - actually for most of us who aren't chemists I think it doesn't do much, but it does point out that because of the close linked relation between cells and the viruses which infect them, that it's hard to develop drugs which will make a virus ineffective without at the same time poisoning the healthy cells. It doesn't really explain how anti-virals are discovered - the process seems somewhat happenstance - though that after all was the origin of another weapon in the armoury against disease - penicillin.

I assume that once a drug with anti-viral properties is discovered, that some form of refinement+modification programme is used to develop better drugs.