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  • johnb
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    • Mar 2007
    • 2903

    Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
    Any Questions this week - which character is BJ most similar to - I think that was the question. One respondent said "Winnie the Pooh".

    This reminded me of an episode of Yes Minister, many years ago - re the award of an honorary degree at an Oxbridge college. The college officials asked Sir Humphrey "And does he have the intellectual capacity of Winnie the Pooh?" After hardly any hesitation Sir Humphrey replies "Oh yes, On his day". Perhaps there was also some prompting because of the references to classical languages, which reminded me of the book "Winnie Ille Pu" - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Winnie-Pooh.../dp/1405278110
    When I heard that question on Any Question I was reminded of the memorable remark that Max Hastings (BJ's one time boss) made at the time of the Tory Party leadership election: "Boris Johnson thinks he is Winston Churchill but he is more like Alan Partridge."

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    • LMcD
      Full Member
      • Sep 2017
      • 8644

      Originally posted by johnb View Post
      when i heard that question on any question i was reminded of the memorable remark that max hastings (bj's one time boss) made at the time of the tory party leadership election: "boris johnson thinks he is winston churchill but he is more like alan partridge."
      AHA!

      (Why was my 'a-ha' downcased?)

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      • oddoneout
        Full Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 9282

        Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
        You could say this is one promise they've come good on After all, 'this country' did elect them.
        Only thanks to FPTP. The majority of voters did not vote for them.
        There may have been plenty wrong with this country before the current pestilence (and Covid-19) was foisted on it, but I don't consider it was bad enough to 'deserve' said leadership catastrophe.

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        • johnb
          Full Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 2903

          The government/PHE/Local Authority might want to look at Swindon. It appears to have joined the select group of local authorites with the very highest infection rates.

          7 days to Wed 29/07:

          Cases in the 7 days: 38 per 100,000 population **
          Increase on the average of two previous 7 day periods: 65 cases/wk or 300%

          w/e 29/7: 86
          w/e 22/7: 33
          w/e 15/7: 10

          ** For comparison, for the same 7 days Bristol to the west and Reading to the east had 5 and 7 cases per 100,000 population respectively

          [Later Edit]
          Although I haven't seen the situation in Swindon mentioned in the national media, the following is a link to an article in the local newspaper. It appears that the outbreak is linked to an Iceland distribution centre run by XPO Logistics.

          Last edited by johnb; 03-08-20, 14:32.

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          • oddoneout
            Full Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 9282

            Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
            Any Questions this week - which character is BJ most similar to - I think that was the question. One respondent said "Winnie the Pooh".

            This reminded me of an episode of Yes Minister, many years ago - re the award of an honorary degree at an Oxbridge college. The college officials asked Sir Humphrey "And does he have the intellectual capacity of Winnie the Pooh?" After hardly any hesitation Sir Humphrey replies "Oh yes, On his day". Perhaps there was also some prompting because of the references to classical languages, which reminded me of the book "Winnie Ille Pu" - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Winnie-Pooh.../dp/1405278110
            Very unfair on Winnie the Pooh. He may have been a bear of little brain, but at least he was aware of his limitations, and had his heart in the right place. Whereas the PM...

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            • oddoneout
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              • Nov 2015
              • 9282

              No wonder these cowboys didn't go through a tendering process - the government wouldn't want anyone looking at their activities to date before awarding the contract. The scam they ran to rename CCHQ as factcheckUK during the 2019 election campaign should have ruled them out straight away in my opinion.

              “Topham Guerin were awarded a contract to help advise and generate social media content to support coronavirus communications,” the spokesman added. “This has been published on gov.uk in the normal way, in line with transparency rules. This work has helped to ensure that vitally important public health messages are effectively communicated to the public.”

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              • Dave2002
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 18035

                Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                Very unfair on Winnie the Pooh. He may have been a bear of little brain, but at least he was aware of his limitations, and had his heart in the right place. Whereas the PM...
                On the contrary, he and piglet planned to catch the Heffalump. "Where will we put the trap?" "We'll put it just in front of him when he's about to fall in" .... etc. Genius!

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30460

                  Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                  No wonder these cowboys didn't go through a tendering process - the government wouldn't want anyone looking at their activities to date before awarding the contract.
                  Hmm, yes:

                  “Topham Guerin were awarded a contract to help advise and generate social media content to support coronavirus communications,” the spokesman added. “This has been published on gov.uk in the normal way, in line with transparency rules. This work has helped to ensure that vitally important public health messages are effectively communicated to the public.”
                  First a bit of hole-and-corner stuff in awarding the contract, and then reveal, in line with transparency rules, to a gullible public that the contract has now been awarded to the best competitor in line with government tendering rules.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • Frances_iom
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 2416

                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    Hmm, yes...
                    Those Tory fund-raising dinners must be very popular - do they raffle such contracts at the end of the dinner or does each minister have a blank tender form / signed planning application to give to his next neighbour

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                    • oddoneout
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 9282

                      Originally posted by Frances_iom View Post
                      Those Tory fund-raising dinners must be very popular - do they raffle such contracts at the end of the dinner or does each minister have a blank tender form / signed planning application to give to his next neighbour
                      Hardly surprising considering the potential return on investment!

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                      • Bryn
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        Currently on Channel 4, Race Against the Virus: The Hunt for a Vaccine. Appears to be a "must watch". If you are not currently watching it, catch it on Channel 4 + 1 or on-demand via the Internet. From the start, it blows holes in the specious claim that China sat on the outbreak. Virologists throughout the world were already on the case before Christmas, for instance. It was the U.K. and other western governments which were slow to respond, despite warnings from leading virologists.

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                        • Serial_Apologist
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37823

                          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                          Currently on Channel 4, Race Against the Virus: The Hunt for a Vaccine. Appears to be a "must watch". If you are not currently watching it, catch it on Channel 4 + 1 or on-demand via the Internet. From the start, it blows holes in the specious claim that China sat on the outbreak. Virologists throughout the world were already on the case before Christmas, for instance. It was the U.K. and other western governments which were slow to respond, despite warnings from leading virologists.
                          Yes, excellent stuff about the early stages on that documentary. The rest of the story I'm beginning to learn by heart!

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                          • Dave2002
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 18035

                            A view that surfaces really are low risk possible ways to transmit Covid-19 is presented here - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...theater/614599

                            If true, then most efforts to clean obsessively are an expensive waste of time - something which I often feel even when not threatened by a dangerous disease.

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                            • LeMartinPecheur
                              Full Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4717

                              Much food for thought in this analysis of the US passage through (into) coronavirus https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...IND_Brexit_CDP So much of it maps horribly well onto the UK's, even if writ smaller. Slightly smaller anyway
                              I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                              • Cockney Sparrow
                                Full Member
                                • Jan 2014
                                • 2291

                                On a quick read, the Atlantic seems well informed, clearly written. Maybe I'll trial a subscription....

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