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  • zola
    Full Member
    • May 2011
    • 656

    Originally posted by johnb View Post
    Perhaps I'm wrong but I believe that the scientific advisors, by taking part in the briefings, have already accepted a type of "cabinet responsibility" which limits their ability to give voice to any significant differences they may have with the government's policies and decisions. After all they are government appointees, one way or another.
    That's what I had thought but two of the advisors, I apologise for not having the names to hand but van Tam ( ? ) and one of the ladies, were pretty clear in their ( albeit coded ) disapproval of Cummings' actions and they haven't been seen since. And today there were no experts at all, just jack of all trades Raab.

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    • Dave2002
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 18035

      Originally posted by zola View Post
      That's what I had thought but two of the advisors, I apologise for not having the names to hand but van Tam ( ? ) and one of the ladies, were pretty clear in their ( albeit coded ) disapproval of Cummings' actions and they haven't been seen since. And today there were no experts at all, just jack of all trades Raab.
      I wish the person who asked Raab a question about that, and he responded that she hadn't asked a medical question, had had one up her sleeve, to counter his response that "he'd answered all the questions - but not medical ones"! Perhaps if Raab re-appears by himelf again all the media questioners can have medical questions ready to fire at him.

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      • johnb
        Full Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 2903

        Originally posted by zola View Post
        That's what I had thought but two of the advisors, I apologise for not having the names to hand but van Tam ( ? ) and one of the ladies, were pretty clear in their ( albeit coded ) disapproval of Cummings' actions and they haven't been seen since. And today there were no experts at all, just jack of all trades Raab.
        Was this the "Colonel Kurtz foreign secretary. The full-on madman with vein throbbing in his forehead" or had the nurses persuaded him to take his mogadon?

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        • LMcD
          Full Member
          • Sep 2017
          • 8644

          Apparently the daily briefings may become weekly (Source: 'Today', Radio 4 this morning)

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          • teamsaint
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 25226

            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
            Apparently the daily briefings may become weekly (Source: 'Today', Radio 4 this morning)
            Too much like hard work. Pathetic.

            In other news, I popped into Salisbury this morning for a few things, and to check out how the various books stores were doing.
            Town was fairly quiet, especially as Tuesday is usually the busiest weekday with it being market day.Plenty of people out and about though.
            Waterstones seemed decently busy, everybody eager to keep distance, and staff all visored up. It felt like a very safe environment at that level of footfall. There was a short queue most of the time at the tills. They told me they had had a very good day yesterday.
            I was amazed at how many stores of all kinds were still closed, probably around 25% . Actually not a bad shopping environment, driving and parking nice and easy, and shops very welcoming. The maze of floor signs for the various shops in the shopping mall might confuse a person though.
            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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            • Frances_iom
              Full Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 2416

              It sounds from today's briefing that BJ has reverted back to bumbling idiot mode - I wonder what the next U-turn will be.

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              • MrGongGong
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 18357

                Originally posted by Frances_iom View Post
                It sounds from today's briefing that BJ has reverted back to bumbling idiot mode - I wonder what the next U-turn will be.
                He is going to give us advice about relationships?

                *(£^%(*^@T(£*^(T@^T£@*V^T

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                • Serial_Apologist
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37823

                  Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                  He is going to give us advice about relationships?

                  *(£^%(*^@T(£*^(T@^T£@*V^T
                  I know what! He's going to go home, and shave off all his hair in a fit of remorse.

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                  • Cockney Sparrow
                    Full Member
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 2291

                    Another excellent "More or Less" programme from Radio 4 this morning. And they will be doing an extra 2 programmes at the request of the network controller.

                    I say do a lot more programmmes - bi-weekly? Then I would be a lot more informed than via the Downing Street daily exercise - reportedly to go down to weekly (which I suppose would limit the exposure of their evasions and fantasy world thinking).

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                    • Frances_iom
                      Full Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 2416

                      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                      I know what! He's going to go home, and shave off all his hair in a fit of remorse.
                      No it's DC who runs home to daddy when he's got a problem

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                      • ardcarp
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11102

                        Agree about More or Less.

                        On the subject of R4 programmes, I was listening to a podcast of an old In Our Time episode on the subject of Parasitism. In passing, diseases were mentioned by the excellent Steve Jones. He said that many of the world diseases such as Smallpox can now be traced (using clever generic markers) to a jump from animal sources to a single human who lived thousands of years ago. It was from this single individual that a particular disease spread worldwide. Lessons for today?

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                        • Dave2002
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 18035

                          I’m not sure if this article has been mentioned here, or in this thread - https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...b-global-en-GB

                          I’m not so bothered about Gaia, which I feel is a bit like homeopathy, though Lovelock is undoubtedly very good at some things. That doesn’t make him right about everything.

                          Bruno Latour does seem to be making some valid points though.

                          One concern about coronavirus and jobs and “the economy”’ is the disproportionate “damage” which happens to some people. I read today that the Scottish economy shrank by about 2% over the last few months. Even spread out over a year or two, that wouldn’t have a big impact on many better off people - and that will include me, though we’re not super rich by any means. So presumably the pain which is no doubt being felt in some quarters is due to our more than slightly broken “system” and the way it is being (mis)managed by those charged [(mis)trusted] with doing that.

                          The “economy” like the virus, is not an entity to be treated as a rational and active object, to be worshipped, maintained or feared or “controlled”, depending on which misuse of semantics one wishes to indulge in.

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                          • zola
                            Full Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 656

                            The app's going well I see

                            Lord Bethell says the coronavirus-tracing app is "not a priority" and has no firm launch date.

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                            • ardcarp
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11102

                              Originally posted by zola View Post
                              The UK is notoriously bad at 'rolling out' anything to do with computer systems. One of my daughters works for a multi-national computer company, and she says there is a tendency always to accept the lowest quote.

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                              • jayne lee wilson
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 10711

                                Money so well spent.......
                                The aircraft, also used by senior royals, is being repainted red, white and blue to "better represent" the UK.


                                ...perhaps it includes beating out the dent in the Jag....
                                Downing Street says there are no reports of any injuries following the incident.

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