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  • Bryn
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
    I wasn't being 100% serious . . .
    Nor was I, except, perhaps, re the Wall Game.

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    • MrGongGong
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      Some rather depressing comments below

      Covid-19 has devastated our theatres and museums. But with imagination we can create something better than before, says Guardian columnist Charlotte Higgins

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      • Frances_iom
        Full Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 2416

        My own feeling is that we are living in a time like the late 1930s in Germany - a right wing state has been set up, any parliamentary scrutiny has been destroyed and soon any mechanism of expressing an alternative voice other that that of the right-wing press driven social mob will have gone. Remember that 1930s Germany destroyed the myth that ordinary people would not act in certain ways - they did when fed continual misinformation from a harlot press + state run radio.

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        • Petrushka
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12309

          I see that PHE have warned this morning that one of the symptoms of coronavirus is loss of smell and advise those who experience it to self-isolate.

          However, this has been known about for quite some time. I read it on the BBC News website as long ago as March 28 so am puzzled as to why the advice has changed only now.
          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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          • Serial_Apologist
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 37833

            Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
            I see that PHE have warned this morning that one of the symptoms of coronavirus is loss of smell and advise those who experience it to self-isolate.

            However, this has been known about for quite some time. I read it on the BBC News website as long ago as March 28 so am puzzled as to why the advice has changed only now.
            Probably because the mass media tend to assume nobody remembers anything they informed them before yesterday unless it's repeated Goebbels-like every day.

            I think there's probably a lot in what Francis says in #2433. Those of us who up until recently believed advances in Western mass consciousness brought about by the positive aspects of media globalisation and shrinkage of the "world stage" through travel, education etc., would seem not to have heeded Marcuse's warnings back in the 1960s about "over-determination" - the tendency for capitalism to sustain immaturusation at the oral stage through promoting the short term in tastes in line with the growing unsustainablilty of production and its location. This rings true from the so many un-ignorable examples that have been to hand for so long some of us feel we've been singing to the trees - one alone which is exemplified in the following quote from MrGG's Guardian artlcle link above:

            The twist is that organisations that have been most successful - following the neoliberal-perfoumed model, easing themselves away from "dependence" on the state, earning most of their income from bars, venue hire and the lke - are the most vulnerable.

            Tory run local authorities have been discovering this for quite a long time now - all too late and too long after Labour councils raised the alarm about cuts from central govt funding and nobody listened.

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            • Dave2002
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 18036

              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
              I see that PHE have warned this morning that one of the symptoms of coronavirus is loss of smell and advise those who experience it to self-isolate.

              However, this has been known about for quite some time. I read it on the BBC News website as long ago as March 28 so am puzzled as to why the advice has changed only now.
              I think in fairness it's because it hasn't been confirmed - definitively - up to now as having a high correlation with confirmed Covid-19 cases. Even now I'm not sure, but the evidence and confirmation is mounting. On the other hand, I gather that suggestions that some anti-malaria medications work have now been "disproved". In other words, there is minimal statistical correlation between recovering from CV-19 and taking those particular anti-malaria drugs.

              Some of the new versions are I believe at least partly due to Spector's work with his team at King's College - https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...shows-11978714 - but until this is confirmed by other groups I would suggest that it might even now be speculative.

              https://uk.news.yahoo.com/coronaviru...171200551.html - but still speculative. Some people who have thought they might have had Covid-19 have sought tests, which came back negative. So which is right - the tests, or the "symptomatic" assessment? We won't know for quite a while i suspect. At present it seems as though many tests are in fact close to useless - so how are good ones to be found which are more consistent?
              Last edited by Dave2002; 18-05-20, 13:52.

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              • Pulcinella
                Host
                • Feb 2014
                • 11071

                And now, even more chaos and confusion, this time with the NHS tracing app.

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                • Dave2002
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 18036

                  Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                  And now, even more chaos and confusion, this time with the NHS tracing app.

                  https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ck-coronavirus
                  I don't know about the contact tracing app - by which I mean I'm uncertain of how useful it will turn out to be. Is it in fact a computer placebo designed to keep us all quiet for a few months until the fuss dies down?

                  Also, remember that over many years, and not just over this kind of issue, UK governments have been pretty bad at getting technology solutions to work, including some very big projects which cost a great deal, but which were nevertheless eventually abandoned.

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                  • jayne lee wilson
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 10711

                    Remarkable photo....so resonant of culture & history-now..... can't look at this without tears.... but more of joy than anything else.....of Love in a Cruel Climate...

                    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/c...theo-anderson/.....
                    Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 18-05-20, 14:49.

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                    • oddoneout
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 9286

                      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                      Some rather depressing comments below

                      https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ms-imagination
                      The so-called Culture Secretary seems to be fixated on football so little hope of positive government input.

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                      • Jazzrook
                        Full Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 3111

                        Interview with Dr Jane Goodall:



                        JR

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                        • Padraig
                          Full Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 4250

                          Originally posted by Jazzrook View Post
                          Interview with Dr Jane Goodall:



                          JR
                          I saw that JR - important message repeated there.

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                          • teamsaint
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 25226

                            Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                            The so-called Culture Secretary seems to be fixated on football so little hope of positive government input.
                            Which is odd, odders, because many ( most?)footy fans seem to be remarkably relaxed about its absence right now.


                            Especially fans of teams in the bottom few positions in their leagues........
                            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                            • Serial_Apologist
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37833

                              Originally posted by Jazzrook View Post
                              Interview with Dr Jane Goodall:



                              JR
                              We are part of, not apart from nature, as a lot of western religion would seemingly have it - I've been saying this for ages, ("Are you some sort of eco-buddhist?" I was asked at a job interview once) - but it sounds authoritative coming from her.

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                              • Jazzrook
                                Full Member
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 3111

                                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                                We are part of, not apart from nature, as a lot of western religion would seemingly have it - I've been saying this for ages, ("Are you some sort of eco-buddhist?" I was asked at a job interview once) - but it sounds authoritative coming from her.
                                A remarkable and very wise woman. I'm sure she's right that there'll be more pandemics if humans continue to destroy rainforests and biodiversity.

                                JR

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