Originally posted by DracoM
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why baffled? - NE moved from stable working class jobs to low status, low paid + low security 'call centre' type jobs within less than 20 years - Cumbria includes the now virtually post-industrialisation Barrow, Workington etc which went thru a similar change (tho it also has the high paid jobs around Sellafield - Yorkshire includes Thatcher's pet dislike of the independent social republic of South Yorks aka Sheffield which took many years to recover -
Of course................naive that I am.Comment
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I can't find a non FB version of this
but for those who do have FB
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I've only got time (at the moment) to scan that article, which seems to be very salient and provide a shocking contrast (whatever the inability to compare statistics between countries). 2 things about it come to me immediately - the key element that questioning and prompt, intelligent and applied leadership was present. Secondly that it wasn't necessary to set up contracts (untendered for or otherwise) to private sector "mates" (unlikely I know, as the minister is a member of the communist party) to take the necessary action. (G4S, Serco, Deloittes....).Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
The article deserves a closer read this evening. Thanks.Comment
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The Kerala example is interesting in that compliance to restrictions is linked to high literacy and good education. In America, I saw a reference today as to which states are most affected by the protest marches - Republican with low educational levels.Originally posted by MrGongGong View PostComment
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One of the few sets of statistics that is both informative and reasonably reliable is the NHS England Hospital Deaths by Date of Death.
There was a steady decline until 2nd May but it then flattened out, at least until 7th May. The figures after 7th May will be subject to considerably upwards revision so can't really be taken into consideration.
The chart does show a very slight decline between 2th and 7th May (avg of ~3 per day) but that might well disappear with the coming daily revisions.
This plateau effect only seems to show up in this specific data, but then it is arguably the most useful and reliable data we have.
Should we be concerned? I'm not sure
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The cumulative data is revised each day as the day's newly reported deaths are distributed back over the days in which the deaths actually occurred.
Of the daily reported deaths very roughly 85% tend to have occurred over the previous 5 days with the other 15% spread over the preceding two or three weeks.
Source data: https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistic...-daily-deaths/Last edited by johnb; 14-05-20, 14:37.Comment
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Owen Jones in today's Guardian as astute as ever (imho, of course):
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Owen Jones really irritates me so I tend to skip over whatever he writes. My loss no doubt.Originally posted by Pulcinella View PostComment
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He can go on about LGBTQ issues, I suppose, but with some justification, given that he was recently assaulted.Originally posted by johnb View Post
I must confess to rather liking his writing/style, but I can see that it might not suit all (and probably especially those he's critical of!).Comment
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Ditto. He's got the gift of the gab, I'll give him that.Originally posted by johnb View PostMy life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)Comment
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"Go on about LGBTQ issues" ? You wouldn't say that if you were LGBT..... you think all those battles are over...? Think again....
Owen Jones is a polemical hero on political and LGBTQ issues.... agree or not, but listen to him, from whatever point in the spectrum of humanity you come...
...but please don't dismiss him as "irritating"... or with condescension about "gift of the gab" ....oh, please......... all that shows is your own (probably hetero-based) prejudices, latent or otherwise....
I used to "go on about" LGBT issues here, with dear, remembered Amateur 51.... often we got told off or suppressed for it....
(...sorry Pulcinella, I see you're probably uptospeed about all this...)Comment
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I share the same view - try reading ‘The Establishment’. I made the mistake of thinking it was important. I even read it twice to make sure I wasn’t missing anything, I wish I hadn’t. Chavs is even worse.Originally posted by Pianorak View PostComment
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21 days prior to 1/May? 10/Apr. Start of Easter BH weekend? 10/Apr. Typical infection->death latency seems to be about 21 days.Originally posted by johnb View Post
Step increase in violations of lockdown/adequate distancing/prohibition of travelling to family over Easter? Certainly saw anecdotal evidence of it here and elsewhere in the country...Comment
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Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
I see very little wrong with the writing, or the opinions expressed there. But then I wouldn't, would I?Comment
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