Coronavirus

[Bryn]

I never was a Marxist-Leninist! Sorry if I was talking nonsense - though I was unaware that I was. . . .

What brought the quote to mind was that you had not investigated the program concerned but relied on knowledge of other such multi-computer link-ups of your experience. Mao's point was that each situation has its own characteristics and one needs to investigate them and not rely only on knowledge gained from other, albeit apparently similar, situations. Had you investigated the program you would have discovered the extent to which it was written with due consderation to looking after the safety of the users' computers. By the way, I forgot to mention, the program also defaults to running only when the computer is otherwise idle, though one can switch to it continuing to run while the computer is being used for other tasks.

[Pulcinella]

What brought the quote to mind was that you had not investigated the program concerned but relied on knowledge of other such multi-computer link-ups of your experience. Mao's point was that each situation has its own characteristics and one needs to investigate them and not rely only on knowledge gained from other, albeit apparently similar, situations. Had you investigated the program you would have discovered the extent to which it was written with due consderation to looking after the safety of the users' computers. By the way, I forgot to mention, the program also defaults to running only when the computer is otherwise idle, though one can switch to it continuing to run while the computer is being used for other tasks.

I can't imagine that my 'other tasks' are at all computer heavy: Word Review of the occasional translation for an Italian friend, putting a few more CDs into iTunes and then on my iPod.
Why have I got an iMac then, I hear you and Dave asking.

[Dave2002]

What brought the quote to mind was that you had not investigated the program concerned but relied on knowledge of other such multi-computer link-ups of your experience. Mao's point was that each situation has its own characteristics and one needs to investigate them and not rely only on knowledge gained from other, albeit apparently similar, situations. Had you investigated the program you would have discovered the extent to which it was written with due consderation to looking after the safety of the users' computers. By the way, I forgot to mention, the program also defaults to running only when the computer is otherwise idle, though one can switch to it continuing to run while the computer is being used for other tasks.

I don't investigate everything, and indeed I still haven't investigated this one. Mao may have made some interesting comments and observations, but overall I don't rate him particularly highly.

However - https://www.windowscentral.com/foldi...-supercomputer

https://foldingathome.org/

I don't know whether the Linux version would run faster and thus give more bangs per buck. It might.

[Bryn]

I don't know whether the Linux version would run faster and thus give more bangs per buck. It might.

https://stats.foldingathome.org/os

[Dave2002]

https://stats.foldingathome.org/os

Indeed, but some of that data is estimated, and also not normalised as far as I can tell on a per machine basis - i.e for a given machine, which OS gives the best results. This appears to simply reflect the number of machines signing up to the project. Some machines can run more than one OS - so for anyone concerned about this, it might be useful to know which is more effective. However, at the current time, just getting something done is maybe more important.

There is still on other issue though - whether the search programs which are being run on this massive community supercomputer are the appropriate ones. I have no way of knowing that. That's an act of trust/faith, which may only be discovered later on.

[Bryn]

Indeed, but some of that data is estimated, and also not normalised as far as I can tell on a per machine basis - i.e for a given machine, which OS gives the best results. This appears to simply reflect the number of machines signing up to the project. Some machines can run more than one OS - so for anyone concerned about this, it might be useful to know which is more effective. However, at the current time, just getting something done is maybe more important.

There is still on other issue though - whether the search programs which are being run on this massive community supercomputer are the appropriate ones. I have no way of knowing that. That's an act of trust/faith, which may only be discovered later on.

In my experience, many Linux users have it installed on ancient, low spec. computers. That might explain the relatively low speeds in the table. The low level of Apple involvement just refects the relative lack of popularity of Macs, I suppose.

[Bryn]

https://foldingathome.org/2020/04/13/new-simulations-to-search-for-covid-19-treatment-via-repurposing-existing-ntp-analog-drugs-that-target-viral-rna-replication/

[MrGongGong]

So this headline (today's Guardian)

Coronavirus UK live: No 10 claims Covid-19 crisis strengthens need for UK to be free of EU regulation after 2020

Is what is commonly known as delusional b*llshit

What this demonstrates is exactly the opposite
we NEED to collaborate to combat threats like Covid-19

But it's nice to see all the Brexiteers flocking to the Fens to pick vegetables.....

[oddoneout]

But it's nice to see all the Brexiteers flocking to the Fens to pick vegetables.....

And they're going to be trained by the experienced Romanian workers now being flown in, chortle chortle.

[johnb]

So this headline (today's Guardian)



Is what is commonly known as delusional b*llshit

What this demonstrates is exactly the opposite
we NEED to collaborate to combat threats like Covid-19

But it's nice to see all the Brexiteers flocking to the Fens to pick vegetables.....

I'm reminded of John Crace's memorable prediction following BJ being elected leader of the Conservative Party.

Out would go anyone with any semblance of self-respect and decency. In would come a cabinet shaped in his own image. A cabinet of shits, charlatans and shysters. One in which having been previously sacked for lying was almost a precondition.

[DracoM]

One of the supreme ironies is that the virus crisis is obscuring the fact that this - IMO oop 'ere at any road - has been one of the very finest Springs I can remember for years.
Oh Yes, I'm having to water plants etc every night and sometimes mornings, but....but.....

Ah me!

But the other one is European workers coming to OUR aid. Oh, Brexit, Brexit, where art thou now!!!
A hell of a lot of remainers may well with some justification, be wearily saying 'ahem...........I told you so...'

[oddoneout]

I know that Germany's population is larger than the UK's but even so I was struck by the difference in seasonal worker requirements between the UK and Germany. This article, https://www.theguardian.com/world/co...rs-coronavirus (which does not make for pleasant reading) quotes 300,000 whereas figures quoted for the UK vary between 70,000 and 90,000.

[Serial_Apologist]

I know that Germany's population is larger than the UK's but even so I was struck by the difference in seasonal worker requirements between the UK and Germany. This article, https://www.theguardian.com/world/co...rs-coronavirus (which does not make for pleasant reading) quotes 300,000 whereas figures quoted for the UK vary between 70,000 and 90,000.

A reflection of the higher salaries/wages enjoyed by indigenous German workers than by our's, I suppose.

[oddoneout]

One of the supreme ironies is that the virus crisis is obscuring the fact that this - IMO oop 'ere at any road - has been one of the very finest Springs I can remember for years.
Oh Yes, I'm having to water plants etc every night and sometimes mornings, but....but.....

Ah me!

But the other one is European workers coming to OUR aid. Oh, Brexit, Brexit, where art thou now!!!
A hell of a lot of remainers may well with some justification, be wearily saying 'ahem...........I told you so...'

And one which ironically a great many people are now having the opportunity to see, even if from a window. It's probably just as well though; a continuation of the foul weather with its attendant floods and storm damage would not have helped even a well planned pandemic response let alone the wing-it version we've actually got.

[oddoneout]

A reflection of the higher salaries/wages enjoyed by indigenous German workers than by our's, I suppose.

Another article I was reading about Germany's nursing shortage(who knew they have that problem as well?) mentioned an ageing population as part of the cause , which I suppose would also apply to agricultural workers?