Dominic Cummings

[ahinton]

Hmm, better to have a rich + electable Tory Blair, eh?

Can there be any guarantee of either? In other words, can there be any guarantee that the Labour Party in any form will survive, whoever might be chosen to lead it?...

[muzzer]

It’s a truism recently forgotten but of whatever hue you prefer your politicians, they are powerless to change anything unless they can get into power.

[LMcD]

Can there be any guarantee of either? In other words, can there be any guarantee that the Labour Party in any form will survive, whoever might be chosen to lead it?...

Jon Ashworth doesn't sound too hopeful.

[Bryn]

Can there be any guarantee of either? In other words, can there be any guarantee that the Labour Party in any form will survive, whoever might be chosen to lead it?...

No guarantee of anything, but let's face it, it was not Len McCluskey who put either of the two most recent Labour Party leaders in place, that was done by the party membership. The failure of Labour to take on and defeat the bogus claims of antisemitism against Corbyn played a major role in Labour's defeat. That and widely promoted lies re the role of the EU and Corbyn's apparent fence-sitting on the issue. I am no Labour Party supporter but I do recognise the interfering hand of MOSSAD, the Israeli Embassy et al in UK politics in recent years.

[Dave2002]

Hmm, better to have a rich + electable Tory Blair, eh?

I’m not a great fan of BJ, but at least he, or those who mind him, had the brains to realise that you can’t do much if you don’t get elected. Maybe the LP will eventually get this message.

[Cockney Sparrow]

Hmm, better to have a rich + electable Tory Blair, eh?

I joined the Labour party after the 2017 failure to win. I wanted to have a vote - and hoped the right to vote (as a supporter) on a leader next time would not be capable of one-off purchase. But again instead of £3, £25 this time - not much better. Purely to vote for an electable leader.

It’s a truism recently forgotten but of whatever hue you prefer your politicians, they are powerless to change anything unless they can get into power.

I went to the constituency party meeting and after impassioned speeches - more for Long-Bailey (stance on Brexit undermined the vote, if only the electorate had understood the policies we would have won....) but an impactful one on the very subject of not being able to achieve anything if Labour is not in power. 42 votes for Starmer, 18 for Long-Bailey, 7 for Nandy. Rayner for Deputy. The group in charge of the party have shown their ineptness and incompetence; Starmer is the one candidate who at present looks like a leader electable as PM, with proven experience. He also has the nous not to hand yet more open goals to the present party in government. And hopefully would be able to change the labour party into a competent organisation.

Note today the Soviet style tactics of reporting Starmer's campaign staff to the Data Commissioner. I just hope this tactic backfires and adds support for Starmer, and our constituency vote translates through in the eventual poll for leader. Meanwhile, there is another 5 years where the poorest and most vulnerable are at the mercy of the Tories - more than at any time in the last 10 years.

[muzzer]

I joined the Labour party after the 2017 failure to win. I wanted to have a vote - and hoped the right to vote (as a supporter) on a leader next time would not be capable of one-off purchase. But again instead of £3, £25 this time - not much better. Purely to vote for an electable leader.

I went to the constituency party meeting and after impassioned speeches - more for Long-Bailey (stance on Brexit undermined the vote, if only the electorate had understood the policies we would have won....) but an impactful one on the very subject of not being able to achieve anything if Labour is not in power. 42 votes for Starmer, 18 for Long-Bailey, 7 for Nandy. Rayner for Deputy. The group in charge of the party have shown their ineptness and incompetence; Starmer is the one candidate who at present looks like a leader electable as PM, with proven experience. He also has the nous not to hand yet more open goals to the present party in government. And hopefully would be able to change the labour party into a competent organisation.

Note today the Soviet style tactics of reporting Starmer's campaign staff to the Data Commissioner. I just hope this tactic backfires and adds support for Starmer, and our constituency vote translates through in the eventual poll for leader. Meanwhile, there is another 5 years where the poorest and most vulnerable are at the mercy of the Tories - more than at any time in the last 10 years.

Agree 100%.

Also notable that RLB failed to get the endorsement of Corbyn’s own CLP.

[antongould]

Closer to taking the throne .... ????

[Bryn]

Closer to taking the throne .... ????

Well, the throne is, after all, an unelected role, so . . .

[oddoneout]

Closer to taking the throne .... ????

Already taken it but prefers to have someone else sitting there to take the flak. Power behind the throne more his style.

[DracoM]

Cummings with his manipulating hands up the very interior of Boris Johnson's mind, actions, cabinet, and by extension, OUR lives.

I'm VERY unhappy about this.

[Serial_Apologist]

Cummings with his manipulating hands up the very interior of Boris Johnson's mind, actions, cabinet, and by extension, OUR lives.

I'm VERY unhappy about this.

... As we now see by the number of Cabinet resignations - several faithful yes men and women unceremoniously given the chop.

Can you imagine how BBC news would have presented this just now had it been HM's Opposition? The hysterical gesticulating Norman Smith (pianissimo to fortissimo promised in one second) would have been domiating the screen from his familiar perch opposite the Abbey, telling us just how symbolical of Labour's internal strife all this was. But The People Have Spoken Haven't They, and This Must Be Taken Into Account.

[StephenMcK]

Cummings with his manipulating hands up the very interior of Boris Johnson's mind, actions, cabinet, and by extension, OUR lives.

I'm VERY unhappy about this.

Well, unfortunately, you're going to have to get used to it.

The British people (48% of those who voted, anway) in their so-called wisdom gave Boris on an unassailable majority and there's NOTHING we can do about that for the next five years.

[DracoM]

Can't wait for Savid Javid's book.

[Dave2002]

Cummings with his manipulating hands up the very interior of Boris Johnson's mind, actions, cabinet, and by extension, OUR lives.

Are you so sure it was him? Anyway, he might be more competent - though I am concerned. I was getting a bit fed up with Javid, but he has been treated badly. Are we now to have a whole bunch of "yes" people - singing to the tunes of BJ/DC? This is the sort of thing we point out in other countries - dictators who eliminate people who they don't like, or stand up to them. We haven't quite reached that point yet, but there is a disturbing trend.