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  • StephenMcK
    Full Member
    • Jan 2020
    • 70

    #16
    The great distortion of our times has been the subduing of the Sir Humphreys and the rise of the SPAD ('Special Adviser': take note, in the rail industry it is also the acronym for 'signal passed at danger').

    All this hokum and humbug about democracy and taking back control, only for us to have an entirely unelected and unaccountable Machiavellian barely concealed in the shadows and pulling the strings.

    Yes, Wilson had his kitchen cabinet and Blair had Alistair Campbell wielding far too much political power, but the manipulations of Cummings are in a completely different league.

    Let us not forget, in its neurosis about quitting Europe, there has never been a proper and sensible debate about the future course of Britain's future.

    In years to come, a lot of voters will come to rue the blank cheques they've been writing of late.
    Last edited by StephenMcK; 08-02-20, 17:41.

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    • Cockney Sparrow
      Full Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 2291

      #17
      I'm not denying the reach of his malevolence, but he is in place at the PM's pleasure. I presume his usefulness will come to an end.
      Hold on to that thought, and per The Times a few examples where he didn't get his way:
      • its not lawful for him to recruit/dismiss civil servants so he can forget that
      • He wanted the PM to be at the centre of a high tech "command centre" to be installed in No 11's floor area but Johnson preferred sitting in the office of his predecessors (revelling, no doubt, in the knowledge of where Churchill et al sat...)
      • If he thinks he is going to relocate the best club in London to York..... well, we've heard no more of that.
      • The abandonment of Govt depts, merger of others (inline with Cummings' deep hatred of the Civil Service) is also understood not to be happening (although it does remain to be seen). Because the immediate burst of governmental action and achievement - especially for The North and The Midlands (window dressing or actual) would have to wait whilst any radical re-organisation was planned and implemented.


      I would say again, I fear the worst like many here, but try to hold on to reasons to hope it won't be that bad.....

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      • ahinton
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 16123

        #18
        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        Those elected should be making the decisions. But in this instance, it appears that this unelected bureaucrat is telling the government what to do.
        Indeed, though is that really any worse in principle than elected Prime Ministers getting the electorate to tell the government what to do, as one of them unwisely did recently?(!)...

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37814

          #19
          Originally posted by ahinton View Post
          Indeed, though is that really any worse in principle than elected Prime Ministers getting the electorate to tell the government what to do, as one of them unwisely did recently?(!)...
          I would doubt one can so so far as to deduce a general principle over what is worse, based on Brexit.

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          • muzzer
            Full Member
            • Nov 2013
            • 1193

            #20
            If I remember correctly Cummings has the permanent get out of jail card of “non emergency surgery for a long standing condition” which he has threatened to play several times to date and doubtless will jump to do so before he is pushed.

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            • Stunsworth
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 1553

              #21
              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
              Rasputin was an unelected bureacurat, wasn't he!
              Yes, though I doubt Cummings will find himself the subject of a Boney M single.
              Steve

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              • CGR
                Full Member
                • Aug 2016
                • 370

                #22
                Originally posted by Jazzrook View Post
                The lowdown on the man who's really running the country:

                The long read: He is now the country’s de facto project manager, but what does he actually believe? In a bid to find out, I read (almost) everything Cummings has written in the last decade


                JR
                Article in The Guardian !!!

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                • Pulcinella
                  Host
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 11062

                  #23
                  Originally posted by CGR View Post
                  Article in The Guardian !!!
                  So?

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                  • DracoM
                    Host
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 12986

                    #24
                    Originally posted by CGR View Post
                    Article in The Guardian !!!
                    Ditto? So.........why the surprise?

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                    • Pulcinella
                      Host
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 11062

                      #25
                      Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                      Ditto? So.........why the surprise?
                      I assume that CGR considers it fake news, whereas if it was in the Daily Wail it would of course be completely true and unbiased.

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                      • ardcarp
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11102

                        #26
                        On R4's Broadcasting House today there was an interview with John Burcow. Towards the end he was asked about DC. His reply stretched a tactful answer to its limits....

                        The Sunday morning news magazine programme. Presented by Paddy O'Connell


                        ...interview begins about 7 mins from start.

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                        • LHC
                          Full Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1561

                          #27
                          Originally posted by StephenMcK View Post
                          The great distortion of our times has been the subduing of the Sir Humphreys and the rise of the SPAD ('Special Adviser': take note, in the rail industry it is also the acronym for 'signal passed at danger').

                          All this hokum and humbug about democracy and taking back control, only for us to have an entirely unelected and unaccountable Machiavellian barely concealed in the shadows and pulling the strings.

                          Yes, Wilson had his kitchen cabinet and Blair had Alistair Campbell wielding far too much political power, but the manipulations of Cummings are in a completely different league.

                          Let us not forget, in its neurosis about quitting Europe, there has never been a proper and sensible debate about the future course of Britain's future.

                          In years to come, a lot of voters will come to rue the blank cheques they've been writing of late.
                          As you note, this is not the first time an unelected advisor has wielded far too much political power, cf the ghastly Campbell's role in 'sexing up' the intelligence on Iraq in advance of the Commons vote on the Iraq war.

                          And before we get too sniffy about Cummings, we should remember Seumas Milne and Len McCluskey and his cronies, Karie Murphy and Andrew Murray, could be said to have had a similarly malign influence on the Labour Party over the last four years.
                          "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                          Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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                          • Dave2002
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 18035

                            #28
                            Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                            On R4's Broadcasting House today there was an interview with John Burcow. Towards the end he was asked about DC. His reply stretched a tactful answer to its limits....

                            The Sunday morning news magazine programme. Presented by Paddy O'Connell


                            ...interview begins about 7 mins from start.
                            There is mention of David Cameron about 14 minutes in, but the comments on Dominic C are around 23 minutes in.

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                            • Frances_iom
                              Full Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 2415

                              #29
                              Len McCluskey with his union paymaster power has foisted two poor + unelectable leaders on the labour party and can be said to hold considerable responsibility for Brexit

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                              • Bryn
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 24688

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Frances_iom View Post
                                Len McCluskey with his union paymaster power has foisted two poor + unelectable leaders on the labour party and can be said to hold considerable responsibility for Brexit
                                Hmm, better to have a rich + electable Tory Blair, eh?

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