The BBC 1 'Prime Minister' debate

[MrGongGong]

But BK did not use the word "ALL" in her original post. Some older people are wiser, some are mindless fools, and maybe that includes some people aged 50+ ......

She said

Yes, older people are wiser.

I simply wondered which ones she meant?

[Jazzrook]

The book that defines Boris Johnson's new cabinet:

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/07/britannia-unchained-free-market-book-defines-boris-johnson-s-new-cabinet

JR

[Serial_Apologist]

The book that defines Boris Johnson's new cabinet:

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/07/britannia-unchained-free-market-book-defines-boris-johnson-s-new-cabinet

JR

Sums it up really. It's "interesting" or rather instructive that whichever of the authors who excoriates indigenous British workers champions the role models of South Asians as its ideal, when none of the professions cited is actually "wealth-creating", also dismisses pie-sharing between north and south, and also between manufacturing and services. Thatcher too was prepared to demolish an indigenous wealth-creating manfuacturing base because she and her likeminded friends could maximise their investment returns from goods manufactured in countries where workers' rights were repressed and the World Bank laid down the rules. That these "monetarists" have no idea about economics necessary to maintain a class collaborationist system speaks volumes about the underlying principles driving capitalism being profit maximisation regardless of consequences or the rhetoric of "jam tomorrow".

[burning dog]

The book is a load of absolute cobblers which could backfire in a General Election (Yes I have read it, or rather skimmed through it. I'm sad like that).

Slag off the "working class* and feminists, great vote winner (NOT!)

Raab's idea that Oxbridge educated male toffs are part of an oppressed class is just plain funny!

[LeMartinPecheur]

Raab's idea that Oxbridge educated male toffs are part of an oppressed class is just plain funny!

Are you quite sure about that?

[Serial_Apologist]

Are you quite sure about that?

Funny peculiar, rather than funny ha ha, I would say.

[burning dog]

I suppose - not really but I'd have thought even someone espousing the opinion that " men have it tough these days" would find it hard to include an Oxford educated, former corporate lawyer.

Priti Patel and Raab may have some interesting conversations over Palestine

Raab

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Raab

"He spent the summer of 1998 at Birzeit University near Ramallah, Palestine's de facto capital on the West Bank, where he worked for one of the principal Palestinian negotiators of the Oslo peace accords, assessing World Bank projects on the West Bank."

[burning dog]

Changing from Prime Minister to President for a moment did Trump reference Billie Holiday when calling Baltimore rat infested? I doubt it, but it's an odd coincidence.

[Padraig]

Changing from Prime Minister to President for a moment did Trump reference Billie Holiday when calling Baltimore rat infested? I doubt it, but it's an odd coincidence.

Well, b d, Nina Simone recorded a version of Randy Newman's 'Baltimore', but I don't think either would have caught the attention of yer man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV0aXEJW8es

[DracoM]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00075hn

Mildly off-topic, but............truly worth a listen.

[Wychwood]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00075hn

Mildly off-topic, but............truly worth a listen.

Couldn't agree more. These interviews, which Lord Hennessy has been doing for some time now, are so far removed from the confrontational approach that is the stock-in-trade of daily current affairs programmes -- and so much more revealing. I guess it's the mutual respect between interviewer and interviewee that pays dividends. Rewarding listening.

[DracoM]

[eighthobstruction]

Couldn't agree more. These interviews, which Lord Hennessy has been doing for some time now, are so far removed from the confrontational approach that is the stock-in-trade of daily current affairs programmes -- and so much more revealing. I guess it's the mutual respect between interviewer and interviewee that pays dividends. Rewarding listening.

....and it helps that these people are no longer in the limelight or daily circulation....also that they have a high level of confidence in their careers of the past....

.....when Patton was a member of the Thatcher govt - he was a snarling arrogant nasty piece of work....

[Tony Halstead]

....and it helps that these people are no longer in the limelight or daily circulation....also that they have a high level of confidence in their careers of the past....

.....when Patton was a member of the Thatcher govt - he was a snarling arrogant nasty piece of work....

Who exactly is/was 'Patton'?

[Serial_Apologist]

....and it helps that these people are no longer in the limelight or daily circulation....also that they have a high level of confidence in their careers of the past....

.....when Patton was a member of the Thatcher govt - he was a snarling arrogant nasty piece of work....

He was! Alan Johnson, Norman Lamont and Peter Hain are the other 3 interviewees. I wonder what the underpinning lesson is supposed to be, supposing there to be one. That self-serving slimeballs get sympathetic interviews at the BBC? We knew that already.