The BBC 1 'Prime Minister' debate

[MrGongGong]

And yet all the remainer 'centrists' would damage the country through austerity anyway. Like I said before, there is no easy option; just damage - limitation. The EU seems to implement austerity even if a nation votes against it.

HA HA

You are in "peoples front of Judea" territory there with your talk of "centrists" and the like

IMV it really comes down to whether you want to collaborate with the rest of Europe or not?
that is the real choice

Do you want scientists from the UK to work collaboratively with those in the rest of Europe?
Do you want musicians to be able to travel and work in 28 countries without endless (and I'm in the middle of sorting out a trip to Australia at the moment ) and prohibitively expensive administration?
Do you see people as partners or the enemy?

[Jazzrook]

I'd also have added Iain Dale, Camilla Tominey & Tim Stanley -- who is accorded such reverence in W1A that he's even been given a slot on "Thought for The Day" -- I nearly choked on my cornflakes. Hope we'll have seen the last of Andrew Neil & Portillo soon...

The list is growing!
Will be interesting to see if any of these are included in the panel on the Andrew Marr show tomorrow.

JR

[LMcD]

The list is growing!
Will be interesting to see if any of these are included in the panel on the Andrew Marr show tomorrow.

JR

Tomorrow's interviewed guests are Jeremy Hunt, Len McCluskey and Stephen Fry. The panellists are Iain Dale, Martina Navratilova and Helen Pidd.

[DracoM]

Essential listening. Only 15 mins, but............

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0006djw

[Maclintick]

Tomorrow's interviewed guests are Jeremy Hunt, Len McCluskey and Stephen Fry. The panellists are Iain Dale, Martina Navratilova and Helen Pidd.

Surprise, surprise ! (my italics) Kerrr-ching !! Failed Tory candidate inexplicably lionised by the BBC. I once heard him argue against rail re-nationalisation on Newsnight, by saying "Would you want your rail services run by your local councillors ?" Cloud-cuckoo-land or what ?

[Maclintick]

And yet all the remainer 'centrists' would damage the country through austerity anyway.

An assertion. Older Remainers might remember that Keynesian economics once salvaged the country in a time of savage recession, and that the ascendancy of "New Right" monetarists which has held sway for the last 30 years is now overdue for consignment to the recycle bin.

[Bryn]

An assertion. Older Remainers might remember that Keynesian economics once salvaged the country in a time of savage recession, and that the ascendancy of "New Right" monetarists which has held sway for the last 30 years is now overdue for consignment to the recycle bin.

More suited to consignment to landfill, surely?

[teamsaint]

An assertion. .

I don't think that is an assertion, its as near as you can get to a political fact. the Lib Dems, ( The party that wanted a referendum in its 2010 manifesto) remainer/centrist tories ( the few there re left) all enabled austerity.

And here's the archetypal centrist Blair going all soft on austerity.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/04/11/tony-blair-attacks-labours-resistance-to-austerity-_n_3058207.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACZYplrKpsVXaRW9ZH9obyoAA0nUqmLKuGrYaGP39PgK_J1xGYLmBexTL_2rGFeNUCRYbEm6gfQtnZs8Dw38uvdxdc1laMMT-WCZPd0FS3XGlLDVp_1vmFrzJgGNWiLgfMkL2T1oEm-_HW4Tx2fIzfVAWwrvlWYSFIS_B8LuAOe-

[Maclintick]

More suited to consignment to landfill, surely?

The recycle bin is poorly-named. How often do you actually retrieve stuff from it ?

[Maclintick]

I don't think that is an assertion, its as near as you can get to a political fact. the Lib Dems, ( The party that wanted a referendum in its 2010 manifesto) remainer/centrist tories ( the few there re left) all enabled austerity.

And here's the archetypal centrist Blair going all soft on austerity.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...YSFIS_B8LuAOe-

The political "centre" has shifted rightwards to an alarming degree in the last 30 years, unfortunately, IMHO. The idea that the most disadvantaged in society should have to stump up for austerity policies & the failure of the financial classes, who laud the virtues of free-market capitalism, is pure anathema to me.

[MrGongGong]

The political "centre" has shifted rightwards to an alarming degree in the last 30 years, unfortunately, IMHO. The idea that the most disadvantaged in society should have to stump up for austerity policies & the failure of the financial classes, who laud the virtues of free-market capitalism, is pure anathema to me.

[cloughie]

The political "centre" has shifted rightwards to an alarming degree in the last 30 years, unfortunately, IMHO. The idea that the most disadvantaged in society should have to stump up for austerity policies & the failure of the financial classes, who laud the virtues of free-market capitalism, is pure anathema to me.

...and do all those many people who voted Brexit in the euro-elections really agree with the right wing views of the ‘pied piper’ Farage, or the consequences of the hardest Brexit!

[MrGongGong]

...and do all those many people who voted Brexit in the euro-elections really agree with the right wing views of the ‘pied piper’ Farage, or the consequences of the hardest Brexit!

You don't have to be a delusional bigot to put one in charge.
Which is why I so despair of those on the so-called "left" of politics who have enabled this situation as much as the likes of Farage.

[DracoM]

You don't have to be a delusional bigot to put one in charge.
Which is why I so despair of those on the so-called "left" of politics who have enabled this situation as much as the likes of Farage.

Indeed.

[Joseph K]

HA HA

You are in "peoples front of Judea" territory there with your talk of "centrists" and the like

IMV it really comes down to whether you want to collaborate with the rest of Europe or not?
that is the real choice

Do you want scientists from the UK to work collaboratively with those in the rest of Europe?
Do you want musicians to be able to travel and work in 28 countries without endless (and I'm in the middle of sorting out a trip to Australia at the moment ) and prohibitively expensive administration?
Do you see people as partners or the enemy?

I want to collaborate and be partners but not if it comes with the price of being forced into enacting austerity.

I despair of those who support the Lib Dems when it was their and the Tories austerity regime which caused Brexit in the first place; not Corbyn whose nuanced and pragmatic stance wouldn't please those faith-based remainers.