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  • Anastasius
    Full Member
    • Mar 2015
    • 1860

    Compassion

    Would one expect someone who had very strong Socialist views to also be a compassionate person ?

    What's prompted this is experience on another forum where there is one member ...let's call him Jacob ..(who I think is a troll TBH) who avers to be a staunch Socialist and bludgeons us all to death. But if any forum member comes by hard times, illness, death of a loved one then Jacob is always silent. I kind of thought that the two would go hand in hand but then again perhaps I'm wrong. Neither have I known Jacob to offer to do anything for anyone, to give anything to anyone, to donate anything to anyone. Which I find strange for a Socialist.

    Interested to hear people's thoughts.
    Fewer Smart things. More smart people.
  • Serial_Apologist
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37995

    #2
    Oh I hope that's not me.

    Have there been any threads in which people have been asked about causes or charities to which they've given money?

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    • Richard Barrett
      Guest
      • Jan 2016
      • 6259

      #3
      In my view, socialism is born from compassion: the idea of "from each according to their abilities, to each according to their need". But people don't necessarily look at every part of a forum, maybe it's possible to miss someone announcing a sad event in their life or whatever. I know I've missed such things here, and this forum is relatively small and I'm not personally acquainted with that many other members...

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      • richardfinegold
        Full Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 7823

        #4
        Some people are Socialist in the abstract, but not in their personal dealings.

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        • MrGongGong
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 18357

          #5
          Some people like to "self identify" ?
          There is a certain Beano-inspired-character politician who "self identifies" as a Christian when all his actions would indicate that he isn't.
          If I was one I would be outraged but a huge number of people seem quite happy about it.

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          • Boilk
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 976

            #6
            After taking THIS TEST (anonymously) at politicalcompass.org turns out I identify as more libertarian and more left of centre than I thought.

            It seems the Right-leaning mainstream media hasn't had any effect on me, after all!

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            • Stanfordian
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 9344

              #7
              Originally posted by Anastasius View Post
              Would one expect someone who had very strong Socialist views to also be a compassionate person ?

              What's prompted this is experience on another forum where there is one member ...let's call him Jacob ..(who I think is a troll TBH) who avers to be a staunch Socialist and bludgeons us all to death. But if any forum member comes by hard times, illness, death of a loved one then Jacob is always silent. I kind of thought that the two would go hand in hand but then again perhaps I'm wrong. Neither have I known Jacob to offer to do anything for anyone, to give anything to anyone, to donate anything to anyone. Which I find strange for a Socialist.

              Interested to hear people's thoughts.
              It's a perennial problem, isn't it. As my old university professor used to say simply: just because he doesn't or can't display that compassionate behaviour himself it doesn't mean that he doesn't believe in compassion, fairness and equality etc. On the other hand he might just like saying he's a socialist.
              Last edited by Stanfordian; 23-04-19, 15:43.

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              • Pulcinella
                Host
                • Feb 2014
                • 11240

                #8
                Originally posted by Boilk View Post
                After taking THIS TEST (anonymously) at politicalcompass.org turns out I identify as more libertarian and more left of centre than I thought.

                It seems the Right-leaning mainstream media hasn't had any effect on me, after all!
                I scored -7.38 and -5.54.

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                • vinteuil
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 13065

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Boilk View Post
                  After taking THIS TEST (anonymously) at politicalcompass.org turns out I identify as more libertarian and more left of centre than I thought.

                  It seems the Right-leaning mainstream media hasn't had any effect on me, after all!
                  ... I wonder if this test is based on US parameters. I too was surprized to find I was more left of centre than I wd've thought.

                  I wdn't be at all surprized to find the great majority of forumistas somewhere in the bottom left quadrant...


                  .

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                  • LMcD
                    Full Member
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 8856

                    #10
                    -5.88 and -2.82, which puts me in the bottom left quadrant and makes me 'Left/Libertarian' which is what I expected, I think.
                    (Mind you, my son once told me, in a friendly way, that he thought I'd been 'a little Victorian' when he was young, which - rightly or wrongly - I took as something of a compliment).
                    Last edited by LMcD; 23-04-19, 16:27.

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                    • Sir Velo
                      Full Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 3283

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Boilk View Post
                      After taking THIS TEST (anonymously) at politicalcompass.org turns out I identify as more libertarian and more left of centre than I thought.

                      It seems the Right-leaning mainstream media hasn't had any effect on me, after all!
                      Interesting test but it fails to include the possibility of a "neutral" response to many of the questions. I find myself not really that interested in some questions.

                      Overall, I see I am closer to the mahatma than I would have expected, though more of an anarchist!

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                      • Bryn
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        #12

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30652

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                          Interesting test but it fails to include the possibility of a "neutral" response to many of the questions.
                          Intentional, of course, in that it forces you make a decision, a 'truer' picture perhaps for being down to instinct rather than reason.

                          I was a bit more bottom left than I'd thought (Gandhi comparatively Thatcherite!): in some respects I would have thought of myself as more authoritarian than was shown (which brings to mind the chinless Molesworth skoolmaster: "You may think I'm soft, but I'm hard, damned hard.")

                          Oooh, just seen Bryn's - that's about me too
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • Conchis
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 2396

                            #14
                            Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                            Some people are Socialist in the abstract, but not in their personal dealings.
                            I have met a lot of people to whom this applies, unfortunately.

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                              I have met a lot of people to whom this applies, unfortunately.
                              A fair few have gained leadership roles in counties labelling themselves as socialist.

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