Labour and antisemitism

[Richard Barrett]

Everything is panning out much as I suspected it would...

[MrGongGong]

Everything is panning out much as I suspected it would...

[Lat-Literal]

Wow.

Corbyn and Tusk (and very possibly also May) today jointly decided that the BNP must become a major force in British politics.

Not good.

Not good at all.

[Tony Halstead]

Wow.

Corbyn and Tusk (and very possibly also May) today jointly decided that the BNP must become a major force in British politics.

Not good.

Not good at all.

[teamsaint]

Breaking news. Looks like Labour are now very close to calling for a second referendum on EU membership.

...but still lots of shenanigans to come, as they seem keen not to want a vote on May’s deal, but possibly on a currently non existent one of their own.

[Lat-Literal]

Well, you laugh (in a somewhat strange manner) but UKIP is a spent force and this was the news just a decade ago:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/alarm-over-rise-of-bnp-1628227.html

(The BNP did subsequently get MEPs as predicted by the newspaper even when the UKIP figures were quite high although not anywhere near as high as they were later)

[MrGongGong]

Wow.

Corbyn and Tusk (and very possibly also May) today jointly decided that the BNP must become a major force in British politics.

Not good.

Not good at all.

https://group.bnpparibas

[Lat-Literal]

https://group.bnpparibas

The same sort of ostrich like behaviour occurred in the Weimar Republic.

[MrGongGong]

The same sort of ostrich like behaviour occurred in the Weimar Republic.

I really haven't the faintest idea what you are on about?

[Lat-Literal]

I really haven't the faintest idea what you are on about?

Don't worry about it.

[Bryn]

Never underestimate the ability of the far right to garner support from traditional Labour supporters. or even Liberals. Back in the 1970s, a Liberal candidate in one General Election stood for the National Front in the next, both times in the Cardiff, South-East constituency.

[french frank]

The same sort of ostrich like behaviour occurred in the Weimar Republic.

Are we to understand that you believe that a move towards a second referendum would result in the rise of the BNP? Are you not yourself in favour of putting the question back to the people?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Never underestimate the ability of the far right to garner support from traditional Labour supporters

Indeed - Mosley himself, for example.

[Lat-Literal]

Never underestimate the ability of the far right to garner support from traditional Labour supporters. or even Liberals. Back in the 1970s, a Liberal candidate in one General Election stood for the National Front in the next, both times in the Cardiff, South-East constituency.

Yes. Of course, it could actually be Batten's UKIP with its close associations now with Tommy Robinson which gains. There are masses of Labour voters in the north and South Wales who are effectively Labour/UKIP/BNP swing voters. Should Brexit not be delivered, they will migrate to UKIP or BNP. Almost every swing seat that Labour needs to win in order to obtain an election victory is substantially for leave. Corbyn effectively gave those seats away today with his change of heart. He had already lost some centrist voters. Among other things, I anticipate that Batten's UKIP will be reassuring voters that his party is not anti-Semitic as well as presenting a less Farage like economic policy. But this summer, streets will be ablaze.

[Richard Barrett]

The far right in the UK is a boil that needs lancing every now and again, usually with much help from the boil itself. I think the idea that the far right would gain significant traction in the UK under non-"delivery" of Brexit is seriously far-fetched.