Labour and antisemitism

[greenilex]

I think ff is right that T May is an idealogue.

The ideology is well documented...

[Serial_Apologist]

I think ff is right that T May is an idealogue.

The ideology is well documented...

Please Miss, what's "an idealogue"??

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Please Miss, what's "an idealogue"??

The perfect tree.

[Serial_Apologist]

The perfect tree.

Not "the prefectory", then!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

[french frank]

But we know that they're all for Remain, don't we. Don't we? Ticktickticktickticktick......................

Most of them, yes. That was the reason most of the ex-Labour party defectors gave. Curiously, Barry Gardiner has criticised them for protesting against non-existent anti-semitism while not being 'wholly focused' on it, in the case of Chuka Umunna realising he'll never be leader of the party … The one reason this Lexiteer didn't mention was - Brexit!

[Stanfordian]

This letter in The Guardian from over 200 Jewish members and supporters of Labour gives a refreshing alternative view to the biased media reporting of 'antisemitism in the Labour party':

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/20/jeremy-corbyn-labour-party-crucial-ally-in-fight-against-antisemitism

JR

I wonder how a party that I always imagined would wish to create a fairer, more equitable society got itself into this bloody mess.

[french frank]

I wonder how a party that I always imagined would wish to create a fairer, more equitable society got itself into this bloody mess.

The bigger any group is, the greater the likelihood it will have 'bad apples'. Unfortunately, they have to be dealt with, notwithstanding that they are a microscopic proportion of the entire group. In the case of anti-semitism, it becomes inextricably entangled with the politics of the state of Israel.

[teamsaint]

I wonder how a party that I always imagined would wish to create a fairer, more equitable society got itself into this bloody mess.

With considerable help from the conservative press, aided by the Guardian’s relentless anti Corbyn articles.

[french frank]

With considerable help from the conservative press, aided by the Guardian’s relentless anti Corbyn articles.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-47361344/jon-ashworth-on-labour-handling-of-anti-semitism-claims

[Bryn]

With considerable help from the conservative press, aided by the Guardian’s relentless anti Corbyn articles.

The activities of Shai Masot, of the Israeli Embassy until he was recalled following an Al Jazeera exposé, may well have played a part.

[Serial_Apologist]

The bigger any group is, the greater the likelihood it will have 'bad apples'. Unfortunately, they have to be dealt with, notwithstanding that they are a microscopic proportion of the entire group. In the case of anti-semitism, it becomes inextricably entangled with the politics of the state of Israel.

When I was active on the Left, a rival organisation to ours used to boast about the numbers of recruits it was gaining from the National Front, going so far as to parade them at public meetings, rallies and demos: "This is Kevin, who's come over to join our side" sort of thing.

[Serial_Apologist]

The activities of Shai Masot, of the Israeli Embassy until he was recalled following an Al Jazeera exposé, may well have played a part.

I knew about this: the fact that the mass media are keeping very quiet about it says a lot. I wonder how long it will be before the BBC devotes a Panorama exposé to it. Probably years after all this has blown over - if at all...

[Bryn]

When I was active on the Left, a rival organisation to ours used to boast about the numbers of recruits it was gaining from the National Front, going so far as to parade them at public meetings, rallies and demos: "This is Kevin, who's come over to join our side" sort of thing.

Fringe political tourists are quite a phenomenon. I will not name her since her more recent reconversion may possibly be genuine, but there is one I new well who joined a couple of 'Maoist' organisations in the 1970s and '80s, then got involved with a National Front activist at her higher education institution before going on to get closely involed with loyalist paramilitaries in the North of Ireland before switching back again and partnering with a very prominent anti-fascist activist.

[Bryn]

Breaking news. Looks like Labour are now very close to calling for a second referendum on EU membership.