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  • Serial_Apologist
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37933

    #61
    Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
    Still don't know what it is.
    It studies "the superstructure", ie the ideological expression, in culture, as defined by the stage of development of the productive forces ("the base") at any given period in history. That's it basically but it covers an awful lot!

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    • Serial_Apologist
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 37933

      #62
      Semi-detached suburbia
      Roundabouts
      Heritage
      Back and sometimes front gardens
      Garden cities
      The Arts & Crafts movement
      The vast range of local and regional accents
      The reputed favouring of animals over people
      Renaissance and Georgian architecture
      Dog track racing
      Home ownership as an aspiration
      The Church of England
      Pastoralism in art and music
      Logical positivism, empiricism and pragmatism over theory in general
      Sexual squeamishness and scatological humour
      Puns

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      • gradus
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 5637

        #63
        Private Eye

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        • Mal
          Full Member
          • Dec 2016
          • 892

          #64
          The Detective Novel (thanks to Wilkie Collins...)
          The Science Fiction novel (thanks to H.G. Wells...)
          The Campus Novel (... Kingsley Amis)
          The Spy Novel (... Ian Fleming)

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          • Richard Barrett
            Guest
            • Jan 2016
            • 6259

            #65
            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
            It studies "the superstructure", ie the ideological expression, in culture, as defined by the stage of development of the productive forces ("the base") at any given period in history. That's it basically but it covers an awful lot!
            Although these days it's usually a derogatory term used by the right to dismiss anything that smacks of a liberal view of the presence and function of culture in society, let alone a Marxist one. I think this was the sense in which it was being used by our departed friend.

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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
              Gone fishin'
              • Sep 2011
              • 30163

              #66
              Some people:

              Bede
              Barbara Castle
              Aneurin Bevan
              Jenny Lee
              Tim Berners-Lee (no relation AFAIK)
              Jo Cox
              The Pankursts
              The Tolpuddle Martyrs
              William Wiberforce
              The Lancashire Cotton Workers who refused to break the embargo on cotton from the US in support of the abolitionists
              Richard Steinitz
              David Attenborough
              Turner

              ... etc etc etc ...
              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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              • teamsaint
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 25241

                #67
                and Thatcherism...........an enormous political /cultural phenomenon, ( the defining one of my adult lifetime I would say) for better or worse.....mostly worse.
                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                • vinteuil
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 13035

                  #68
                  .

                  ... some more people :

                  Sir Thomas Browne
                  Robert Burton
                  Joseph Addison
                  James Boswell
                  Rev James Woodforde
                  Tobias Smollett
                  Edward Gibbon
                  Isaac D'Israeli
                  Sydney Smith
                  Thos: Love Peacock
                  William Hazlitt
                  Wm: Makepeace Thackeray
                  Arthur Hugh Clough
                  John Ruskin
                  Matthew Arnold
                  Samuel Butler

                  .

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                  • Joseph K
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 7765

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                    It studies "the superstructure", ie the ideological expression, in culture, as defined by the stage of development of the productive forces ("the base") at any given period in history. That's it basically but it covers an awful lot!
                    You've reminded me - I have a copy of Terry Eagleton's Ideology of the Aesthetic that needs to be read...

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30611

                      #70
                      The original Issigonis mini:



                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37933

                        #71
                        Originally posted by gradus View Post
                        Private Eye
                        But France has (or had) Le Canard Enchaîné, doesn't it?

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                        • gradus
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 5637

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                          But France has (or had) Le Canard Enchaîné, doesn't it?
                          I had no idea that the French mag was so long established but (again thanks Wiki) it seems that The Eye can trace its origins back to Shrewsbury School, and maybe was inspired by Le Canard, perhaps any scholars of the Eye on here can help?
                          Are both mags cultural ambassadors for their respective countries?

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                          • Conchis
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 2396

                            #73
                            Sitcoms that people still watch, even though (or because) they've seen them so many times they know all the jokes/punchlines.

                            Weak tea

                            Broad humour

                            Not being 'too clever by half'

                            Coronation Street

                            Invented lower middle-class terms for sexual organs and natural functions

                            Supporting a football team, in order to be able to make conversation with other people

                            Playing pool for the same reason

                            (Horrible) warm beer

                            Having a (usually) carefully concealed contempt for people from other countries

                            Casual racism

                            Deep racism

                            Not thinking about anything too deeply and being proud of the fact

                            The idea that so-called 'high' culture is 'just not for you'

                            Using your much-vaunted 'sense of humour' as a cover for your insecurities and latent aggression

                            The loving embrace of mediocrity in all its forms


                            That sums up 'UK Kulcha' to me.....

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                            • teamsaint
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 25241

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                              Sitcoms that people still watch, even though (or because) they've seen them so many times they know all the jokes/punchlines.

                              Weak tea

                              Broad humour

                              Not being 'too clever by half'

                              Coronation Street

                              Invented lower middle-class terms for sexual organs and natural functions

                              Supporting a football team, in order to be able to make conversation with other people

                              Playing pool for the same reason

                              (Horrible) warm beer

                              Having a (usually) carefully concealed contempt for people from other countries

                              Casual racism

                              Deep racism

                              Not thinking about anything too deeply and being proud of the fact

                              The idea that so-called 'high' culture is 'just not for you'

                              Using your much-vaunted 'sense of humour' as a cover for your insecurities and latent aggression

                              The loving embrace of mediocrity in all its forms


                              That sums up 'UK Kulcha' to me.....
                              You forgot to include “undisguised contempt for people from your own country “.

                              And you are talking complete nonsense about the racism, just for starters. It does happen in other countries you know.



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                              We are a long way from the worst.
                              Last edited by teamsaint; 21-01-19, 19:31.
                              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                              • Conchis
                                Banned
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 2396

                                #75
                                Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                                You forgot to include “undisguised contempt for people from your own country “.

                                And you are talking complete nonsense about the racism, just for starters. It does happen in other countries you know.
                                Of course it does, and I know because I've lived in other countries. But I've yet to meet a people as intrinsically (though subtly) racist as the British - or, rather, 'the English'.

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