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  • Lat-Literal
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    • Aug 2015
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    Location, Location, Location - What We Are Not Told About Buying a House

    An over-confident couple in their early thirties with a child on the way have £450,000 to spend on a house. Each is, quote, a boarding school teacher. How did they get that sort of money? The programme doesn't say but all programmes of this kind mainly feature unfathomable people. Those who don't show in their character huge amounts of ability or nous.

    As one sits there asking all the hows and whys - it's a mysterwee as Toyah might once have said - it is easy to forget that none of them is exactly typical. Beyond the renters and the genuinely homeless, the huge number of people in static caravans is now one of this country's biggest unseens and the same is true of those who are in granny flats or, in the case of young people, have mortgages for tiny studio apartments. In fact, there are many things that we are never told as others are being advised how to pursue the house buying dream.

    Neighbours, for example, are hardly ever mentioned. It is as if none of them could ever be a problem. In the real world, one third are good, one third are indifferent and one third are hell on earth. While almost everyone seems to want more space - and is there anything more irritating than those who can afford big areas complaining that those areas are not quite big enough? - no one mentions the pain in the neck that is regular maintenance, something that is so much worse in a bigger house. On occasions, there are ex-council properties, obvious from the design and historically those did tend to be larger, but apparently it is politically incorrect or inconvenient to mention that they were ever council properties. Why?

    As for local facilities, schools are often mentioned but never the adequacy of hospitals and other medical services. This is a television world in which people rarely get ill and there is no such thing as a postcode lottery on health provision. When it comes to the wonderful views beyond the properties, there is never any discussion in these programmes about whether any adjoining fields are likely to be developed for housing, turned into a waste dump or, even worse, fracked. Over a long period of time, I have worked this one out. The only comparatively safe view is one on a historical castle which is unlikely to be moved or on the rare stretches of sea which will never be windmilled or pipelined. No. Far more important, it seems, is whether there is a "breakfast island" in the kitchen or a lovely Victorian fireplace. The latter never looks beautiful to me but rather an eyesore. It triggers thoughts in me of Dickens.
    Last edited by Lat-Literal; 09-01-18, 12:26.
  • Stanfordian
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    • Dec 2010
    • 9329

    #2
    Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
    An over-confident couple in their early thirties with a child on the way have £450,000 to spend on a house. Each is, quote, a boarding school teacher. How on earth did they get that sort of money? The programme doesn't say but all programmes of this kind mainly feature people of this kind. Those who don't show in their character huge amounts of ability or nous.

    As one sits there asking all the hows and whys - it's a mysterwee as Toyah might once have said - it is easy to forget that none of them are exactly typical. Beyond the renters and the genuinely homeless, the huge numbers of people in static caravans is now one of this country's biggest unseens and the same is true of those who are in granny flats or in the case of the young have mortgages for studio apartments. In fact, there are many things that we are never told as they are being advised how to pursue the house buying dream. Neighbours, for example, are hardly ever mentioned. It is as if none of them could ever be a problem. While almost everyone seems to want more and more space - is there anything more irritating than those who can afford big areas complaining that those areas are not quite big enough? - no one mentions the pain in the neck that is regular maintenance, something that is so much worse in a bigger house. On occasions, there are ex-council properties, obvious from the design and indeed historically those did tend to be larger, but apparently it is politically incorrect or inconvenient to mention that they were once council properties.

    As for local facilities, schools are often mentioned but never the adequacy of hospitals and other medical services. When it comes to the wonderful views beyond the properties, there is never any discussion in these programmes about whether any adjoining fields are likely to be developed for housing or turned into a waste dump or fracked. Over a long period of time, I have worked this one out. The only comparatively safe view is one on a historical castle which is unlikely to be moved or on the rare stretches of sea which will not be windmilled or pipelined. Meanwhile, the emphasis tends to be on whether there is a "breakfast island" in the kitchen or a lovely Victorian fireplace. The latter never looks beautiful to me but rather an eyesore. And it triggers thoughts in me of Charles Dickens.
    Hiya Lat-Literal,

    Inherited wealth surely!

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    • Lat-Literal
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      • Aug 2015
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      #3
      Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
      Hiya Lat-Literal,

      Inherited wealth surely!
      Well, yes, possibly Stan but they never seem to be bereaved.

      I used to joke that in one of the more affluent areas locally - Des O'Connor used to live there - that the majority had probably at one time been drug dealers etc. Then the police found a big cannabis farm in one, a GP was struck off for selling body parts to Africa and Smiley Culture stabbed himself to death following a raid. No wonder Katie Price moved somewhere else.

      When I watch these programmes I tend to want my ideal. It's a one bedroom detached house by the sea with a fabulous view that will never be altered. But as well as thinking a lot, I've been on Right Move and discovered that such a place has never existed in any part of the country. I find this deeply troubling because the programmes are quite clearly a con and they just make you think that the undeserving are getting far too much. It takes a hell of a lot of effort to realise that they are actually being misled and also deluding themselves.
      Last edited by Lat-Literal; 09-01-18, 11:56.

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      • vinteuil
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        • Nov 2010
        • 12955

        #4
        Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
        When it comes to the wonderful views beyond the properties, there is never any discussion in these programmes about whether any adjoining fields are likely to be developed for housing, turned into a waste dump or, even worse, fracked. Over a long period of time, I have worked this one out. The only comparatively safe view is one on a historical castle which is unlikely to be moved or on the rare stretches of sea which will not be windmilled or pipelined. .
        ... another solution - a view over a cemetery.

        A further solution (adopted by an unfeasibly wealthy friend for his villa on a Greek island) - to purchase all the land within eye view....

        .

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        • Lat-Literal
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          • Aug 2015
          • 6983

          #5
          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
          ... another solution - a view over a cemetery.

          A further solution (adopted by an unfeasibly wealthy friend for his villa on a Greek island) - to purchase all the land within eye view....

          .
          Yes, the first is a good idea although you always have to be wary of being in a road called something like Church Lane as there can be an enormous amount of regulations linked to the church. Those can potentially bankrupt you once you are in the place and discover the extent of them. Islands - yes again - there are 1.5-2 million in the world that are uninhabited.

          I can never understand the emphasis on the external appearance of a property. Most properties are unattractive and rather as with owning a flash car most of the time is spent inside it. I saw a Racing Green mini the other day. That would be my first choice and it was just great to think that the driver couldn't enjoy it in the way that observers without the money could.
          Last edited by Lat-Literal; 09-01-18, 12:29.

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          • Dave2002
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            • Dec 2010
            • 18048

            #6
            There are some judgements in the preceding posts. Who knows or can decide whether others are unworthy or undeserving?

            Aspirations? As we'll all most likely end up in a small box, or burnt, is there not any reason for aspiring to better than that while we are alive and can actually enjoy things?

            Agree about maintenance and other factors.

            Some of the views expressed above seem needlessly negative and depressing.

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            • eighthobstruction
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              • Nov 2010
              • 6449

              #7
              ....many of these people I'm sure ( I glean this info from the 3 sec clips I see as I swop channels) are the types that save coupons from supermarkets, internet, and newspaper[also those offers of free pizza and 2 for1's/ 2 for 3's that come from thro the letterbox] They are SAVERS. They are also the types that listen to Paul Lewis' Moneybox and take advantage of all his advice and offers of free money from HMRC....they never buy anything at other than the right price, all travel booked 3 months in advance to gain best price. They are I believe people with (cough ahem) portolios....this is how they have amassed great wealth while teaching the priviledged children of folk who wrongly believe they are part of the Establishment....
              bong ching

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              • Pianorak
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                • Nov 2010
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                #8
                Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                When I watch these programmes I tend to want my ideal. It's a one bedroom detached house by the sea with a fabulous view that will never be altered. But as well as thinking a lot, I've been on Right Move and discovered that such a place has never existed in any part of the country.
                It's just come onto the market, sir: http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-69858521.html
                My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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                • eighthobstruction
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                  Who knows or can decide whether others are unworthy or undeserving?




                  ....Ho Ho Ho, I think we can....(take the intonation as:) I THINK we CAAAN....

                  ....I am after all a depressive, with an ugly amount of skeptism and bile....
                  ....but not a little humour....
                  bong ching

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                  • Lat-Literal
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                    • Aug 2015
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pianorak View Post
                    It's just come onto the market, sir: http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-69858521.html
                    Wow.

                    Have we met in a previous life?

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                    • Dave2002
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 18048

                      #11
                      Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                      ....Ho Ho Ho, I think we can....(take the intonation as:) I THINK we CAAAN....

                      ....I am after all a depressive, with an ugly amount of skeptism and bile....
                      ....but not a little humour....
                      So inherently unworthy and undeserving eh? ???

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                      • eighthobstruction
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 6449

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Pianorak View Post
                        It's just come onto the market, sir: http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-69858521.html
                        ....surely that's part of the set for The Night Manager....
                        bong ching

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                        • eighthobstruction
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 6449

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                          So inherently unworthy and undeserving eh? ???
                          ....sad but true....but humble....
                          bong ching

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                          • Dave2002
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                            • Dec 2010
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                            ....sad but true....but humble....
                            Sounds like a Heap of nonsense to me.

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                            • Lat-Literal
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                              • Aug 2015
                              • 6983

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                              So inherently unworthy and undeserving eh? ???
                              I think I was being realistic.

                              There have been English people looking at properties worth over a million who say "haitch".

                              That, to me, is upsetting.

                              Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                              ....many of these people I'm sure ( I glean this info from the 3 sec clips I see as I swop channels) are the types that save coupons from supermarkets, internet, and newspaper[also those offers of free pizza and 2 for1's/ 2 for 3's that come from thro the letterbox] They are SAVERS. They are also the types that listen to Paul Lewis' Moneybox and take advantage of all his advice and offers of free money from HMRC....they never buy anything at other than the right price, all travel booked 3 months in advance to gain best price. They are I believe people with (cough ahem) portolios....this is how they have amassed great wealth while teaching the priviledged children of folk who wrongly believe they are part of the Establishment....
                              A positive angle........some might be, I suppose.

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