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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30448

    #16
    Just a thought: I hope we don't get sued for 'publishing' some of this 'fake news' ... (or even suella'd)
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • Old Grumpy
      Full Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 3642

      #17
      Originally posted by french frank View Post
      Just a thought: I hope we don't get sued for 'publishing' some of this 'fake news' ... (or even suella'd)
      Certainly wouldn't want to be suella'd!

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37812

        #18
        Originally posted by smittims View Post
        Ultimately I'd like to see everyone paid the same, on the grounds that everyone has the same needs for drink, food and shelter. Peoepl with special needs (medical, for instance) would be catered for by extra provision of services .

        I think the argument that 'you have to pay some people more to encourage talent' is a fallacy. Employers often use the 'recruitment and retention' argument: 'we don't need to pay you more as there are plenty of qualified people able and willing to do your job at that rate '. Well, that applies to some of the most overpaid professions: Rock stars, formula one drivers, premier league footballers,etc. Pay them the minimum wage and there'd still be plenty of applicants.
        Contrary to common fallacies, Karl Marx never advocated equal pay for all, be they employers or employees, but that those with greater skills or in higher positions should be payed an extra amount commensurate with the time they would have needed to spend acquiring the necessary skill. This idea was derived in part from practices he had seen at work during the Paris Commune, the first example of a worker's state in operation, where it should be added that bosses were elected instead of imposed, paid at a democratically agreed differential, on the basis of having acquired the necessary prior know-how and experience of shop floor working, and subject to recall if deemed not to be fulfilling their duties and responsibilities. Other practices of workers' control have included the kibbutzim system first applied - with provisos - when Israel was initially envisaged by progressive Jews as a socialist state. Some kibbutzim applied a system of job circulation - a person might find him or herself elected to the top ceo position would be expected to do all jobs including toilet cleaning and kitchen skivvying with equanimity. One can see the usual rush to judgement: wouldn't "natural human vindictiveness" make a mockery of such a system? The answer to which would be, look at how the forces which typically motivate envy and jealousy in the first place, generated within the existing hierarchical power-privileging systems, do not apply to other areas of living designed to counteract the malfunctionings and worst excesses, including social service, charity work and (in the best instances) religious practices. For a long time the disciplines of sports and military training have been particularly extolled for "character training" - personally I have me doubts.

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        • Retune
          Full Member
          • Feb 2022
          • 328

          #19
          Please write a letter to the Radio Times condemning the 'dumbing down' of classical music station BBC Radio 3 in the style of an offended member of the online Radio 3 Forum.

          Certainly! Here’s a letter you might send to the Radio Times:

          Dear Editor,

          I am writing to express my profound disappointment and frustration with the recent changes to BBC Radio 3, which I believe represent a significant ‘dumbing down’ of the station’s classical music programming. As a long-time listener and active member of the online Radio 3 Forum, I feel compelled to voice the concerns shared by many in our community.

          For decades, Radio 3 has been a bastion of high-quality classical music, offering a rich and diverse array of programming that catered to discerning listeners. However, recent shifts in the station’s schedule and content have left many of us feeling alienated and disheartened. The decision to move the esteemed Record Review to a less prominent time slot is particularly troubling. This program has been a cornerstone of Saturday mornings for countless classical music enthusiasts, providing insightful analysis and critical discussion that is now relegated to a sleepy afternoon slot.

          Moreover, the introduction of more ‘easy-listening’ segments and the inclusion of non-classical genres such as jazz and folk music during prime listening hours is a clear departure from Radio 3’s core mission. While I appreciate the need to attract a broader audience, this should not come at the expense of the station’s integrity and the quality of its classical music offerings. There are already other platforms, such as Classic FM, that cater to those seeking lighter fare. Radio 3 should remain a sanctuary for serious classical music lovers.

          The influx of celebrity presenters and the increasing focus on audience participation and phone-ins further dilute the station’s content. These changes seem to prioritize entertainment over education and depth, undermining the very essence of what has made Radio 3 unique and cherished by its loyal listeners.

          I urge the BBC to reconsider these changes and to restore Radio 3 to its former glory. The station has a responsibility to uphold the highest standards of classical music broadcasting, and it is disheartening to see it stray from this path. Let us preserve the intellectual and cultural richness that has defined Radio 3 for so long.

          Yours sincerely,

          [Your Name]
          A Concerned Member of the Radio 3 Forum

          I hope this captures the sentiment you were aiming for! If you need any adjustments, feel free to let me know.

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          • LMcD
            Full Member
            • Sep 2017
            • 8627

            #20
            Originally posted by Retune View Post
            Please write a letter to the Radio Times condemning the 'dumbing down' of classical music station BBC Radio 3 in the style of an offended member of the online Radio 3 Forum.

            Certainly! Here’s a letter you might send to the Radio Times:

            Dear Editor,

            I am writing to express my profound disappointment and frustration with the recent changes to BBC Radio 3, which I believe represent a significant ‘dumbing down’ of the station’s classical music programming. As a long-time listener and active member of the online Radio 3 Forum, I feel compelled to voice the concerns shared by many in our community.

            For decades, Radio 3 has been a bastion of high-quality classical music, offering a rich and diverse array of programming that catered to discerning listeners. However, recent shifts in the station’s schedule and content have left many of us feeling alienated and disheartened. The decision to move the esteemed Record Review to a less prominent time slot is particularly troubling. This program has been a cornerstone of Saturday mornings for countless classical music enthusiasts, providing insightful analysis and critical discussion that is now relegated to a sleepy afternoon slot.

            Moreover, the introduction of more ‘easy-listening’ segments and the inclusion of non-classical genres such as jazz and folk music during prime listening hours is a clear departure from Radio 3’s core mission. While I appreciate the need to attract a broader audience, this should not come at the expense of the station’s integrity and the quality of its classical music offerings. There are already other platforms, such as Classic FM, that cater to those seeking lighter fare. Radio 3 should remain a sanctuary for serious classical music lovers.

            The influx of celebrity presenters and the increasing focus on audience participation and phone-ins further dilute the station’s content. These changes seem to prioritize entertainment over education and depth, undermining the very essence of what has made Radio 3 unique and cherished by its loyal listeners.

            I urge the BBC to reconsider these changes and to restore Radio 3 to its former glory. The station has a responsibility to uphold the highest standards of classical music broadcasting, and it is disheartening to see it stray from this path. Let us preserve the intellectual and cultural richness that has defined Radio 3 for so long.

            Yours sincerely,

            [Your Name]
            A Concerned Member of the Radio 3 Forum

            I hope this captures the sentiment you were aiming for! If you need any adjustments, feel free to let me know.
            A tad too long for the letters page?

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            • Old Grumpy
              Full Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 3642

              #21
              Originally posted by LMcD View Post

              A tad too long for the letters page?
              Rephrased by Article Rewriter :

              I am writing to explicit my profound sadness and frustration with the latest adjustments to BBC Radio three, which I accept as true with constitute a significant 'dumbing down' of the station's classical track programming. As a long-time listener and energetic member of the net Radio three Forum, I sense pressured to voice the issues shared via way of means of many in our community.

              For decades, Radio three has been a bastion of superb classical track, imparting a wealthy and various array of programming that catered to discerning listeners. However, latest shifts withinside the station's agenda and content material have left lots of us feeling alienated and disheartened. The selection to transport the esteemed Record Review to a much less outstanding time slot is in particular troubling. This application has been a cornerstone of Saturday mornings for endless classical track enthusiasts, supplying insightful evaluation and crucial dialogue this is now relegated to a sleepy afternoon slot.

              Moreover, the creation of more 'easy-listening' segments and the inclusion of non-classical genres together with jazz and folks track at some point of high listening hours is a clean departure from Radio three's middle mission. While I respect the want to draw a broader target target market, this have to now no longer come on the rate of the station's integrity and the fine of its classical track offerings. There are already different platforms, together with Classic FM, that cater to the ones in search of lighter fare. Radio three have to stay a sanctuary for extreme classical track lovers.

              The inflow of movie star presenters and the growing consciousness on target target market participation and phone-ins similarly dilute the station's content material. These adjustments appear to prioritize enjoyment over training and depth, undermining the very essence of what has made Radio three specific and loved via way of means of its unswerving listeners.

              I urge the BBC to rethink those adjustments and to repair Radio three to its former glory. The station has a obligation to uphold the best requirements of classical track broadcasting, and it's far disheartening to peer it stray from this path. Let us keep the highbrow and cultural richness that has described Radio three for thus long.

              Yours sincerely,

              [Your Name]
              A Concerned Member of the Radio three Forum

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30448

                #22
                Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post

                Rephrased by Article Rewriter :
                Now put it through Google Translate English > German > Spanish and then back into English again. And Sam Jackson can put that in his pipe and smoke it, after first carefully shredding it into tobacco-sized strips. Snort.
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • Retune
                  Full Member
                  • Feb 2022
                  • 328

                  #23
                  I was quite impressed that it complained about the Record Review move and made a comparison with Classic FM. The original has linked citations for the points it is making, too:


                  In March, Alan Davey will step down as the controller of BBC Radio 3. His role over the past eight years has been huge. Not only has he overseen programming and strategy for Radio 3 and BBC orchestras, but he has also championed access to contemporary music and focused on forgotten past composers, many of




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                  • LMcD
                    Full Member
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 8627

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post

                    Rephrased by Article Rewriter :
                    I leave it to others to decide whether I'm an 'extreme classical track lover', especially as I'm not sure whether or not it comes across as a compliment.

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                    • burning dog
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 1511

                      #25
                      In the hallowed halls of sound, where echoes dance and play,
                      A station once revered for depth now wanes in disarray.
                      Radio Three, a bastion, where serious notes did soar,
                      Now sips from lighter chalices, a symphony no more.

                      The strings of somber sonnets, resonate with timeless grace,
                      Yet drifting winds of frivolity threaten to erase
                      The gravitas of melodies that held us in their thrall,
                      As crescendos turn to whispers, and soft notes barely call.

                      Jazz, a river winding deep, with improvisational flow,
                      Once surged with raw emotion now softens like the snow.
                      Each riff was a conversation, a dialogue so bold,
                      Now dulcet tones on sunny days make stories less than told.

                      But let us not despair, beneath the frills that mask,
                      The heart of art still pulses strong, if we dare to ask:
                      Can lightness cradle heaviness, can joy embrace the gloom,
                      A harmony emerging where shadows dare to bloom?

                      So here’s to classical and jazz, may they find their way anew,
                      Embracing every genre while holding to the true.
                      Let voices rise in unison, let struggles weave the thread,
                      For in the tapestry of sound, every note can be well-read.

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                      • oddoneout
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 9268

                        #26
                        I had to look up Article Rewriter, as I thought it might be a spoof of some sort. All the entries given seem to have been written by AW or something similar - do people fall for it?
                        This was a good one
                        Our essay rewriter uses advanced algorithms to preserve the actual meaning when changing words.
                        All I can say about that is that there is more to using a Thesaurus than just picking a different word, and AI(or the AI being used) doesn't seem to have got that far yet?
                        Apparently the process is called article spinning and the results are plagiarism free. Having read the example above, and looked at this

                        I can't say I'm convinced.

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                        • Serial_Apologist
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37812

                          #27
                          Thank you for that beautiful ode to Radio 3 and more, burning dog - I take it to be yours?


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                          • oddoneout
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 9268

                            #28
                            Originally posted by french frank View Post

                            Now put it through Google Translate English > German > Spanish and then back into English again. And Sam Jackson can put that in his pipe and smoke it, after first carefully shredding it into tobacco-sized strips. Snort.
                            Perhaps as a result of the fumes drifting across from next door, my brain immediately came up with Michael Gove in response to the end of your post...

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                            • burning dog
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 1511

                              #29
                              Originally posted by LMcD View Post

                              I leave it to others to decide whether I'm an 'extreme classical track lover', especially as I'm not sure whether or not it comes across as a compliment.

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                              • Retune
                                Full Member
                                • Feb 2022
                                • 328

                                #30
                                Title: The Maestro vs. The Gypsy King

                                In a surreal twist of fate, the world of classical music collided with the world of heavyweight boxing. The venue: a grand arena in London, packed with an eclectic mix of classical music aficionados and boxing fans. The contenders: Sir John Eliot Gardiner, the esteemed conductor known for his mastery of Bach, and Tyson Fury, the reigning heavyweight champion known for his prowess in the ring.

                                Round 1: The Overture

                                As the bell rang, Sir John Eliot Gardiner, dressed in a custom-made tuxedo with boxing gloves, stepped into the ring with a composed demeanor. Tyson Fury, towering and muscular, bounced on his feet, ready to unleash his power. The crowd roared as the two men approached each other.

                                Gardiner, with the grace of a conductor, moved lightly on his feet, dodging Fury’s initial jabs. He raised his gloves in a manner reminiscent of conducting an orchestra, and the audience couldn’t help but chuckle at the sight. Fury, amused but focused, threw a series of quick punches, testing Gardiner’s reflexes.

                                Round 2: The Crescendo

                                In the second round, Gardiner surprised everyone with his agility. He danced around the ring, evading Fury’s powerful swings. The conductor’s years of precise hand movements seemed to translate into quick footwork. Fury, though, was relentless. He landed a solid jab, causing Gardiner to stagger momentarily.

                                But Gardiner, ever the maestro, regained his composure. He began to use his gloves like a baton, orchestrating his movements with finesse. The crowd was in awe of the unexpected resilience of the conductor.

                                Round 3: The Finale

                                As the final round began, both men were determined to give their best. Fury, with his experience and strength, launched a series of powerful punches. Gardiner, though visibly tired, continued to dodge and weave, his movements almost choreographed.

                                In a dramatic turn of events, Gardiner managed to land a surprising uppercut on Fury, causing the champion to step back in shock. The crowd erupted in cheers, amazed at the conductor’s spirit. Fury, with a grin, acknowledged Gardiner’s effort and delivered a respectful nod.

                                The bell rang, signaling the end of the match. Both men, exhausted but smiling, embraced in the center of the ring. The judges declared Tyson Fury the winner, but the real victory was the unexpected and entertaining spectacle that had brought two worlds together.

                                Epilogue: The Encore

                                After the match, Sir John Eliot Gardiner and Tyson Fury held a joint press conference. Gardiner, with a twinkle in his eye, joked about incorporating boxing moves into his conducting. Fury, ever the showman, expressed his admiration for Gardiner’s courage and grace.

                                The event became legendary, a testament to the unexpected harmony that can arise when different worlds collide. And so, the Maestro and the Gypsy King left an indelible mark on the hearts of all who witnessed their extraordinary bout. 🎶🥊

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