Broad/narrow-minded

[Beef Oven!]

I'm not afraid of being called a snob.

Me neither, but I wouldn't like to be called narrow-minded.

[Stunsworth]

Me neither, but I wouldn't like to be called narrow-minded.

Thumbs up.

[french frank]

Me neither, but I wouldn't like to be called narrow-minded.

Everyone is narrow-minded, in their own way. They don't always see it that way.

[Beef Oven!]

Everyone is narrow-minded, in their own way. They don't always see it that way.

The context is music, and I don't think that everyone is narrow-minded in their own way about music. I think that many people are easily described as broad-minded, in music for example.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

The context is music, and I don't think that everyone is narrow-minded in their own way about music. I think that many people are easily described as broad-minded, in music for example.

"Broadminded" is a much abused term, rightly used when supporting tolerance of differing views, but wrongly used when tacitly accepting rubbish.

[french frank]

The context is music, and I don't think that everyone is narrow-minded in their own way about music. I think that many people are easily described as broad-minded, in music for example.

It may be true that some have a wider variety of tastes in music than others. I don't think that's the same thing as 'broad-minded'.

'Broad-minded' would require people NOT to think that having wide tastes in music was somehow 'better', 'wiser', 'more tolerant' than liking, say, modern music/early music but not much else, musically. It just means liking a wider range of music, possibly without discriminating preferences. But 'broad-minded' is a weasel-word which puts people (usually themselves) on some sort of moral high ground.

[Beef Oven!]

It may be true that some have a wider variety of tastes in music than others. I don't think that's the same thing as 'broad-minded'.

'Broad-minded' would require people NOT to think that having wide tastes in music was somehow 'better', 'wiser', 'more tolerant' than liking, say, modern music/early music but not much else, musically. It just means liking a wider range of music, possibly without discriminating preferences. But 'broad-minded' is a weasel-word which puts people (usually themselves) on some sort of moral high ground.

I'm not talking about the simple business of having a wider variety of tastes in music, I'm thinking more about not being judgemental and the ability to grasp that things that we might not like are perhaps equal but different to the things we do like. This entails being more broadminded. 'Broad-minded' is simply broad-minded - it's a weasel-word for nothing. I think there are many broadminded people in this forum, but I'm not placing them on ''some sort of moral high ground''.

[Beef Oven!]

"Broadminded" is a much abused term, rightly used when supporting tolerance of differing views, but wrongly used when tacitly accepting rubbish.

Given that the context is this year's Proms concerts in particular, and music in general, it's hard to know why you think that using the term broadminded here, could have anything to do with "tacitly accepting rubbish". What's the rubbish that is being 'tacitly accepted' here, would you say?

[french frank]

I'm not talking about the simple business of having a wider variety of tastes in music, I'm thinking more about not being judgemental and the ability to grasp that things that we might not like are perhaps equal but different to the things we do like. This entails being more broadminded. 'Broad-minded' is simply broad-minded - it's a weasel-word for nothing. I think there are many broadminded people in this forum, but I'm not placing them on ''some sort of moral high ground''.

I agree partly, but I don't think it's necessary to be judgemental about the music to say - should one wish to say it - that a Radio 1 dance-party is 'outside the remit' of the Proms or Radio 3. That does not imply that the music is other than 'equal but different'. Others may read more into it for their own purposes.

I say 'broad-minded' is a 'weasel-word' because its opposite is 'narrow-minded'. The two words do imply Good Thing and Bad Thing. People seldom boast of being narrow-minded. Can you be anything in between, other than 'Never really Thought About It/No Opinion'?).

[Beef Oven!]

I agree partly, but I don't think it's necessary to be judgemental about the music to say - should one wish to say it - that a Radio 1 dance-party is 'outside the remit' of the Proms or Radio 3. That does not imply that the music is other than 'equal but different'. Others may read more into it for their own purposes.

I'm unsure why a 'Radio 1 dance party' would be outside the remit of the Proms. Forgive me if the remit of the Proms has been authoritatively explicated elsewhere and I've not seen it, but I thought that it was a loose sort of Sir Henry Wood type thing about 'creating a public appetite for classical and modern music'. And what's Radio 3 got to do with any of this?

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

. But 'broad-minded' is a weasel-word which puts people (usually themselves) on some sort of moral high ground.

[MrGongGong]

Have a large one dudes

I doubt it will as good as this though?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxf-8HkwAMY

or this

[Beef Oven!]

Why do you think that broad-minded is a weasel word? The meaning of broadminded need have nothing to do with narrow-minded people or with red-herrings like 'moral high ground'.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Why do you think that broad-minded is a weasel word? The meaning of broadminded need have nothing to do with narrow-minded people or with red-herrings like 'moral high ground'.

Dear me...

[Beef Oven!]

Dear me...

What does that mean?